美國(guó)校園槍擊案不斷連發(fā)，美國(guó)人不由問(wèn)：我們到底是怎么了？（一）
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Honestly, the reason why there are no mass shootings in other countries is because the country banned guns. Or need a license to own one. Not more than 2 guns are allowed when you have a gun license. There are also monthly/ yearly check-up if you own a registered gun.
老實(shí)說(shuō)，其他國(guó)家沒(méi)有大規(guī)模槍擊事件的原因是因?yàn)槠渌麌?guó)家都禁止槍支。或者需要執(zhí)照才能擁有。當(dāng)你有持槍證時(shí)，最多可以持有2支槍。如果你擁有注冊(cè)槍支，你還會(huì)接受月度/年度檢查。
Agreed. And they'd complain that people would look for other illegal means to grab hold of a gun, but at least it won't make it as easy to access like today. A teen shooting an elementary school like it was nothing, SMH.
同意。不過(guò)他們也會(huì)抱怨說(shuō)，人們會(huì)尋找其他非法持有槍支的方式，但至少不會(huì)像今天這樣容易獲得槍支。一個(gè)青少年在小學(xué)開(kāi)槍?zhuān)拖袷菦](méi)事人一樣，草他媽的什么鬼。
@Ryuuga Eisen it wasn't a teen. It was a young adult. We don't care what the world thinks of us Americans and our right to bare arms
槍手不是青少年。是一個(gè)年輕人。我們不在乎世界怎么看我們美國(guó)人，以及我們攜帶武器的權(quán)利
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@Travis Smith MERRRIIIICAAAA
啊，美利堅(jiān)啊~~~
@Rome can't even spell
你連正確的拼寫(xiě)都不會(huì)
@Travis Smith yup, you sure sound like you dont care.
You sound like you dont care about those who lost their lives and their parents as well.
看起來(lái)你真的是不在乎。
你聽(tīng)起來(lái)好像完全不關(guān)心那些失去生命的人和他們的父母。
@Fredrick Lin oh I care, it's horrible. But my rights and liberties mean more to me because I still have the power to protect myself and my loved ones therefore some pathetic Europeans who gave up their rights aren't gonna succeed in guilt tripping me or trying to offend me in any way shape or form
哦，我在乎，這太可怕了。但我的權(quán)利和自由對(duì)我來(lái)說(shuō)更重要，因?yàn)槲胰匀挥心芰ΡＷo(hù)我自己和我愛(ài)的人，哪怕一些可憐的歐洲人放棄了他們的權(quán)利，但他們也不會(huì)成功地讓我內(nèi)疚或用這種方式冒犯我
@Fredrick Lin so nice try bud, but uh kick rocks
很不錯(cuò)的嘗試（刺激我），但是，嗯，踢石頭（沒(méi)什么用）
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Agreed, but USA love gun so much, it'll happen again and again eventually... Unlike other country that ban gun for it's people (or they need license for having it)
同意，但是美國(guó)太喜歡槍了，所以這種事情最終會(huì)一次又一次地發(fā)生……不像其他國(guó)家禁止人們持槍(或者他們需要許可證才能持槍)
its death sentence for someone that carry gun without license here
在我們這里無(wú)照攜帶槍支無(wú)異于死刑
@Chris Ng how ironic.
多么諷刺。
@Travis Smith I’m surprised these people didn’t mention in places that make guns difficult to own or illegal that the gun man ends up buying a Saturday special gun anyways.
我很驚訝，這些人居然沒(méi)有提到，在禁止槍支的國(guó)家，槍手最終還是會(huì)通過(guò)非法途徑買(mǎi)一把周六專(zhuān)用的槍。
You can't even bring any fake gun or other equipment akin to gun in China and Singapore, they have tremendous strict laws. USA should have learnt it from the beginning.
在中國(guó)和新加坡，你甚至不能帶任何假槍或類(lèi)似槍支的設(shè)備，他們有非常嚴(yán)格的法律。美國(guó)從一開(kāi)始就應(yīng)該明白這一點(diǎn)。
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living in country of 270 millions+. i never heard something like this happen.
我生活在人口超過(guò)2.7億的國(guó)家。但我從沒(méi)聽(tīng)說(shuō)過(guò)這種事（大規(guī)模槍擊）。
@Travis Smith still below 20s...info shows he bought the 2 AR for his own 18s birthdays..
槍手還不到20歲，信息顯示他為自己的18歲生日買(mǎi)了2把AR……
here in d philippines we dont ban guns here....its all about people. There is something wrong with ur system in trying to raise ur children. Banning guns is not d answer
在菲律賓，我們也不禁止槍支……其實(shí)一切都與人有關(guān)。你們的教育體系有問(wèn)題。禁槍不是解決問(wèn)題的辦法
@Travis Smith So protect yourself rather than protect the most vulnerable of your community? LITERALLY THINK OF THE CHILDREN WHO DONT HAVE YOUR GUNS
所以是保護(hù)自己，還是保護(hù)社區(qū)中最脆弱的人？想想那些不像你一樣擁有槍的孩子們
Bring out laws to raise the age needed to aquire a weapon, and YEARLY/EVERY 6 MONTH Mental uations and DEEP BACKGROUND CHECKS!! Come on!!
出臺(tái)法律提高獲得武器的年齡，每年/每6個(gè)月進(jìn)行一次心理評(píng)估和深入的背景調(diào)查??！快點(diǎn)開(kāi)始吧！！
Those countries lost their freedom by giving away the one thing that can protect them from tyrants. Evil will continue to do evil, you can't just wish it to go away so prepare yourself and your love ones because the world is in a decline. The cycle of hatred will continue on, its sad
這些國(guó)家失去了自由，因?yàn)樗麄兎艞壛宋ㄒ荒鼙Ｗo(hù)他們免受暴君迫害的東西。邪惡會(huì)繼續(xù)作惡，你不能只是希望它消失，所以你和你的愛(ài)人要做好準(zhǔn)備，因?yàn)槭澜缯谒ネ觥３鸷薜难h(huán)還會(huì)可悲的繼續(xù)
@ElterivlE Banning gun is easiest answer to have no Gunshot in school
禁止槍支是學(xué)校沒(méi)有槍擊的最簡(jiǎn)單的答案
@Risky Oh .. it's MURICAAAA!!!!
哦……這就是美利堅(jiān)?。?！
@Travis Smith no one is saying to ban guns, but to have stricter gun laws. i like how you prioritize protecting yourself instead of the children of your country. Dont you want to feel safe when you send your kids to school?
沒(méi)人說(shuō)要禁止槍支，而是說(shuō)要有更嚴(yán)格的槍支法律。我喜歡你把保護(hù)自己放在第一位，而不是保護(hù)你國(guó)家的孩子。當(dāng)你送自己的孩子上學(xué)時(shí)，你不想有安全感嗎？
@Travis Smith I wonder as an outsider, why don’t some Americans agree with stricter regulations on the license to carry for a registered gun? Wouldn’t it just make it harder for crazed people to access firearms? Yes they could still get it either way from another source, but it would be more difficult to do so.
作為一個(gè)局外人，我想知道為什么一些美國(guó)人不同意對(duì)持有注冊(cè)槍支的許可證進(jìn)行更嚴(yán)格的規(guī)定？這不是讓瘋子更難以獲得槍支嗎？是的，他們?nèi)匀豢梢詮钠渌阔@得，但這樣做會(huì)讓他們獲取槍支更加困難。
@ElterivlE We actually do? If you’ve been properly informed we still have the gun ban implemented because the post-election events are still happening. When you say gun ban that doesn’t always mean that everyone can’t use guns, cops and the military still use it but for official business.
I think you misunderstood the context of gun ban in American and Filipino terms.
我們（菲律賓）真的不禁槍嗎？因?yàn)檫x舉后的事件仍在發(fā)生（菲律賓總統(tǒng)換屆出現(xiàn)的沖突），我們一直在實(shí)施槍支禁令，如果你有準(zhǔn)確的信息可以告訴我。你說(shuō)的槍支禁令并不是指每個(gè)人都不能使用槍支，警察和軍隊(duì)仍然使用它，因?yàn)樾枰糜诠珓?wù)。
我認(rèn)為你誤解了美國(guó)和菲律賓槍支禁令的背景。
@Vieri Zona it is their culture.that is why they love war so much
這是美國(guó)人的文化。這就是為什么他們?nèi)绱藷釔?ài)戰(zhàn)爭(zhēng)
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in my country therr is no guns at all except for police and military but of course there is some few rare criminals having them but we dont see or hear about them and few chasers for hobbit.
在我的國(guó)家，除了警察和軍隊(duì)，根本沒(méi)有槍?zhuān)?dāng)然也有一些罕見(jiàn)的罪犯有槍?zhuān)覀儧](méi)有看到或聽(tīng)說(shuō)過(guò)他們，也很少有人追捕。
i hope usa keep their gun law as it is
我希望美國(guó)保持現(xiàn)在的槍支法
@Travis Smith What liberties are you trying to protect with your guns?
你想用你的槍保護(hù)什么自由？
@Risky i think he is just mocking
我覺(jué)得他只是在嘲笑
@Travis Smith You won’t need to protect yourself and your family if the country bans guns.
如果國(guó)家禁止槍支，你就不能再保護(hù)自己和家人了。
@Iggy waw. we all have ennemies and we arent freaking fearing them to live in paranoa night and day. if they come we will then prepare our selves before that we prefer to live safely. isnt little children killed enough, those babies were american too. am far from usa and wont live in usa but tbh i feel pain for those children or teenagers..killed and am more sad toward their parent, how should they feel they were all dreaming for a succeful daughter or son and now all the dream prepared since years destroyed in fes seconds
我們都有敵人，我們并不害怕敵人日夜活在偏執(zhí)之中。如果敵人敢來(lái)，我們會(huì)在他們來(lái)之前做好準(zhǔn)備，我們更喜歡安全的生活。難道小孩子被殺的還不夠多嗎？那些嬰兒也是美國(guó)人。我離美國(guó)很遠(yuǎn)，也不會(huì)住在美國(guó)，但說(shuō)實(shí)話，我為那些孩子和青少年感到痛苦。因?yàn)樗麄儽粴⒘耍腋鼮樗麄兊母改父械诫y過(guò)，這些父母會(huì)怎么想？他們都?jí)粝胫幸粋€(gè)成功的女兒或兒子，現(xiàn)在多年準(zhǔn)備的所有夢(mèng)想在幾秒鐘內(nèi)都破滅了
@Travis Smith Maybe you will change your mind if kids happen to be yours.
如果被殺的孩子是你的，也許你會(huì)改變主意。
@FlybyQuran just go to china. This is america. This is freedom
你去中國(guó)住吧。這里是美國(guó)。這里是自由國(guó)度！
@Travis Smith Say that to one of the parents
你去跟被殺孩子中的家長(zhǎng)說(shuō)這句話吧
@Iggy Your freedom seems to be killing people. A lot of countries are free and have strict gun laws. A country doesn’t need everything to be accessible to the public for it to be free.
你的自由似乎在殺人。很多國(guó)家是自由的，也有嚴(yán)格的槍支法律。一個(gè)國(guó)家并不需要所有東西都對(duì)公眾開(kāi)放才能實(shí)現(xiàn)自由。
@Iggy not interested in usa neither china neither europ even to be elon musk out there
我對(duì)美國(guó)、中國(guó)和歐洲都不感興趣，甚至我都不想成為誒隆馬斯克
@Travis Smith wait till its ur child or loved one
等著看你的孩子或愛(ài)人被殺吧
@Travis Smith European here, we didn't give up our right to own guns, we just have a system which is not perfect but waaaaay better than what happens in most states in the usa. That 18 year old would probably have tried to do the same thing here, but most likely it wouldn't have been so easy and with so many victims.
我是歐洲人，我們沒(méi)有放棄擁有槍支的權(quán)利，我們確實(shí)是一個(gè)不完美的系統(tǒng)，但比美國(guó)大多數(shù)州發(fā)生的要更好。那個(gè)18歲的孩子可能會(huì)在我們這里嘗試做同樣的事情，但很可能他不會(huì)那么容易的就獲得槍支，而且也不會(huì)有那么多受害者。
@Ryuuga Eisen Yep. The point of having stricter gun laws is so that it's LESS accessible to the average person. Right now, an emotional young teen or adult could just find one in a drawer and get a whole bunch of ideas.
That goes for protection, too. Less guns, less likely to be in a situation with guns. You have other means of protection. How about using those?
沒(méi)錯(cuò)。制定更嚴(yán)格的槍支法律的目的是讓普通人更不容易接觸到槍支?，F(xiàn)在，一個(gè)情緒激動(dòng)的青少年或成年人可以隨便從抽屜里找到一把槍?zhuān)缓髮?shí)行自己的一大堆想法（殺人）。
禁槍也適用于保護(hù)。槍支越少，就越不可能出現(xiàn)持槍的情況。你有其他的保護(hù)手段。用那些手段保護(hù)自己怎么樣？
@JDM JOHNNY there are millions of gun owners. Whose gonna pay and run all those checks?
美國(guó)有數(shù)百萬(wàn)的槍支擁有者。誰(shuí)來(lái)為這些槍?zhuān)ㄊ諛專(zhuān)└跺X(qián)？
Idk for other countries if they have this but they should have guards in the school every single day in school for security purposes and some countries doesn't have those which is why it is possible for it to happen. This can also be an additional factor to that incident
我不知道其他國(guó)家怎么樣，如果他們也有一樣的情況，他們應(yīng)該每天在學(xué)校里安排保安，以確保學(xué)校的安全，而一些國(guó)家沒(méi)有給學(xué)校安排保安，所以也是這種事情發(fā)生的部分原因。
@Vieri Zona yeah but you can ban guns.
是的，但是你可以禁止槍支。
@vlad the man we are a country which boarders one of the most dangerous countries in the world. Most of the illegal drugs and illegal firearms are trafficked through the boarder. It’s getting crazier every year. Gotta protect your home and family. Of course you would understand if your neighbor was Finland, or Sweden.
我們是一個(gè)與世界上最危險(xiǎn)的國(guó)家接壤的國(guó)家。大多數(shù)非法毒品和非法槍支都是通過(guò)邊境走私的。一年比一年瘋狂。你要保護(hù)你自己的家和家人。當(dāng)然，如果你的鄰居是芬蘭或瑞典這種和平國(guó)家，你不會(huì)理解我們這種想法的。
@Paul Robbie Parker I’m sure many of those families owned firearms. Let’s not forget about Ramos.
我很確定很多家庭都擁有槍支。我們不要忘記Ramos。
@Travis Smith wouldn't you not need guns anymore if others would not have guns also?? Idk why you always have to use a gun? Other countries can do just fine protecting themselves even without a gun. Just admit that you're just using "rights and liberties" an excuse.
如果其他人都沒(méi)有槍了，你不就也不需要槍了嗎？我不知道為什么你總是要用槍?zhuān)科渌麌?guó)家的人即使沒(méi)有槍?zhuān)材芎芎玫乇Ｗo(hù)自己。承認(rèn)你只是在用“權(quán)利和自由”作為自己拿槍的借口吧。
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@Andi A It's culture, yes, it's also a business, America really need to booming out their economy with that many Gun Factory, Ammunition etc... If not sold to other country, selling it to their people to shoot their people is really weird country really...
槍支是一種文化，同時(shí)這也是一種商業(yè)，美國(guó)真的需要通過(guò)這么多槍廠和彈藥來(lái)繁榮他們的經(jīng)濟(jì)……如果不能賣(mài)給其他國(guó)家，就賣(mài)給他們的人民槍殺他們的人民，這真是個(gè)奇怪的國(guó)家……
@Ryuuga Eisen Quoted by you:
"And they'd complain that people would look for other illegal means to grab hold of a gun'
In some countries in Asia, it is a mandatory death sentence or life imprisonment for owning an illegal gun.
This equally applies to drug offenses.
引用你自己的話：
“他們會(huì)抱怨說(shuō)，人們會(huì)尋找其他非法持槍方式。”
在亞洲的一些國(guó)家，非法持有槍支會(huì)被強(qiáng)制判處死刑或終身監(jiān)禁。
這同樣適用于毒品犯罪。
@Nemu Mami Quoted by you:
"why don’t some Americans agree with stricter regulations on the license to carry for a registered gun?"
Haven't you hear of lobbying or donations by gun manufacturers ??
The whole idea is to make getting a gun as easy as ABC.
我也引用你的話：
“為什么一些美國(guó)人不同意對(duì)持有注冊(cè)槍支的許可證進(jìn)行更嚴(yán)格的規(guī)定？”
你沒(méi)聽(tīng)說(shuō)過(guò)槍支制造商的游說(shuō)或捐款嗎？
整個(gè)目的就是為了讓你們獲得槍支像ABC一樣容易。
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@Paul Barretto Quoted by you:
"Gun fights happen regularly, daily here in South East Asia"
Please name the country. !!!
And your source of info !!
引用你的話：
“在東南亞，每天都有槍?xiě)?zhàn)發(fā)生?！?br /> 請(qǐng)說(shuō)出這個(gè)國(guó)家的名字??！
還有你的信息來(lái)源?。?/b>
@Travis Smith Murica, land of the freeeeee
美利堅(jiān)，自由之地
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@ElterivlE which cave are you from mate? I'm currently here in the Philippines and they do have gun bans.
你來(lái)自哪個(gè)洞穴？我現(xiàn)在在菲律賓，他們確實(shí)有槍支禁令。
@Travis Smith Do you prepare this rant in advance before every massacre?
你每次屠殺別人前，都會(huì)提前準(zhǔn)備好這段咆哮嗎？（槍支自由）
@Kelii Yamashita no the problem is the types of guns yall sell to ordinary civilians lol if he had a shot gun or actual hunting riffle he wouldnt have been able to do nearly as much damage, to be able to get extanded mags and semi and automatic guns are the problem, almost never hear about these things happening in Canada, ne zealand and all other first orld countries. and all those countries also have crazzy ppl
不，問(wèn)題是你們賣(mài)給普通人槍支的種類(lèi)，哈哈，如果他只有霰彈槍或獵槍?zhuān)筒豢赡茉斐蛇@么大的傷害，問(wèn)題是他能得到擴(kuò)展彈匣、半自動(dòng)和自動(dòng)步槍?zhuān)瑤缀鯊膩?lái)沒(méi)有聽(tīng)說(shuō)過(guò)加拿大發(fā)生這種事情。新西蘭和所有其他第一世界國(guó)家也沒(méi)有。
First and foremost, my deepest condolences to the parents who lost their children in this incident.
To answer Mr. President's question, "why is this massacre rarely happens in any other countries, with the frequency of which happening in US?", is because IMO, no other countries allow their ordinary citizen to possess, let alone wield guns, even small arms fire. As far as i know, US is the only country that allows its citizens to possess gun (and maybe some other countries in Europe), which i think for self defense purposes. Sadly, this also comes with the risk of people who will misuse guns, like in this incident.
首先，我對(duì)在這次事件中失去孩子的父母表示最深切的哀悼。
回答總統(tǒng)先生的問(wèn)題，“為什么這種屠殺很少發(fā)生在其他國(guó)家，而只發(fā)生在美國(guó)？”是因?yàn)樵趪?guó)際組織看來(lái)，其他國(guó)家都不允許他們的普通公民擁有槍支，更不用說(shuō)使用槍支，哪怕是輕武器也不行。據(jù)我所知，美國(guó)是唯一一個(gè)允許公民擁有槍支的國(guó)家(可能還有歐洲的其他一些國(guó)家)，我認(rèn)為美國(guó)的槍支也許是出于自衛(wèi)目的。但可悲的是，這同時(shí)也帶來(lái)了濫用槍支的風(fēng)險(xiǎn)，就像這次事件一樣。
There are over 300 million guns owned in the USA what actually percentage are used in crimes
在美國(guó)，有超過(guò)3億支槍被用于犯罪
True, but for extra information the country in europe who your mention for an example is switzerland, however the difference between the swiss and americans is that the swiss has background check as well as knowledge of understanding on how to wield a gun compare to the average american where you can litterally buy a gun if you bring the money to the gun shop and that is just the legal part too.
你說(shuō)的沒(méi)錯(cuò)，不過(guò)我為你提供額外信息，你提到的歐洲國(guó)家是瑞士，也可以自由擁有槍支，然而，瑞士人和美國(guó)人的不同之處在于，瑞士人有背景調(diào)查以及如何使用槍支的知識(shí)，而普通的美國(guó)人，如果你帶著錢(qián)去槍支商店，你就可以買(mǎi)到一把槍?zhuān)^的背景調(diào)查只是法律的字而已。
The problem is not guns or people, it’s the environment. The school wasn’t able to protect the kids, they should be blamed for having such a weak security where literally a teenager can just walk up that easily and start shooting.
問(wèn)題不在于槍或人，而在于環(huán)境。學(xué)校沒(méi)有能力保護(hù)孩子們，他們應(yīng)該受到責(zé)備，因?yàn)樗麄兊陌踩胧┤绱吮∪酰灾劣谝粋€(gè)青少年可以輕易地走進(jìn)去隨意開(kāi)槍射擊。
@Darryl Rakha We do background checks in America. It's patently false that you can just walk into a shop and buy a gun just because you want to.
我們?cè)诿绹?guó)也做背景調(diào)查。你可以隨便走進(jìn)一家商店就能買(mǎi)到一把槍的說(shuō)法，顯然是錯(cuò)誤的。
"Kids should be allowed to bring guns to school for self-defense" is what Americans would say to keep their guns right.
“孩子們應(yīng)該被允許帶槍去學(xué)校自衛(wèi)”，這是美國(guó)人為了保護(hù)他們的槍支而會(huì)說(shuō)的話。
@Thanos in most of the schools don`t need the kind of protection that would stop someone like this young man from causing this type of horror!
大多數(shù)學(xué)校不需要這種保護(hù)，來(lái)阻止像這個(gè)槍手一樣的人制造的這種恐怖！
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