美司法部稱應(yīng)強(qiáng)制谷歌出售Chrome瀏覽器
Google Should Be Forced to Sell Chrome Browser, Justice Department Says譯文簡介
谷歌在反壟斷訴訟中敗訴后,分拆上市將對其造成重大打擊
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The Justice Department on Wednesday said Google should have to sell off its popular Chrome browser as part of a court-ordered fix to its monopolization of the online search market.
美國司法部周三表示,作為法院下令解決谷歌壟斷在線搜索市場問題的一部分,谷歌必須出售其廣受歡迎的Chrome瀏覽器。
美國司法部周三表示,作為法院下令解決谷歌壟斷在線搜索市場問題的一部分,谷歌必須出售其廣受歡迎的Chrome瀏覽器。
The request follows the government’s victory this year in an antitrust case against Google and is likely to kick off a heightened legal fight with wide-reaching implications for the tech giant’s core business.
這一要求是在政府今年勝訴谷歌反壟斷案之后提出的,很可能會(huì)引發(fā)一場對這家科技巨頭核心業(yè)務(wù)影響深遠(yuǎn)的激烈法律斗爭。
這一要求是在政府今年勝訴谷歌反壟斷案之后提出的,很可能會(huì)引發(fā)一場對這家科技巨頭核心業(yè)務(wù)影響深遠(yuǎn)的激烈法律斗爭。
Government lawyers said competition can only be restored if Google separates its search engine from products it has built to access the internet, such as Chrome and its Android mobile operating system. Chrome controls about two-thirds of the global browser market, according to the website Statcounter. Searches in the Chrome address bar go through Google unless a user changes the settings.
政府律師表示,只有谷歌將其搜索引擎與其開發(fā)的上網(wǎng)產(chǎn)品(如Chrome瀏覽器和安卓手機(jī)操作系統(tǒng))分開,競爭才能恢復(fù)。據(jù)Statcounter網(wǎng)站稱,Chrome瀏覽器控制著全球約三分之二的瀏覽器市場。除非用戶更改設(shè)置,否則在Chrome瀏覽器地址欄中的搜索默認(rèn)將通過谷歌進(jìn)行。
政府律師表示,只有谷歌將其搜索引擎與其開發(fā)的上網(wǎng)產(chǎn)品(如Chrome瀏覽器和安卓手機(jī)操作系統(tǒng))分開,競爭才能恢復(fù)。據(jù)Statcounter網(wǎng)站稱,Chrome瀏覽器控制著全球約三分之二的瀏覽器市場。除非用戶更改設(shè)置,否則在Chrome瀏覽器地址欄中的搜索默認(rèn)將通過谷歌進(jìn)行。
The Justice Department also requested that Google be prevented from giving preferential access to its search engine on devices that use its Android mobile operating system. If Google violated that rule in the future, it would have to divest Android as well under the government’s proposal.
司法部還要求阻止谷歌在使用其安卓移動(dòng)操作系統(tǒng)的設(shè)備上默認(rèn)使用其搜索引擎。如果谷歌今后違反了這一規(guī)定,根據(jù)政府的提議,它也必須剝離安卓系統(tǒng)。
司法部還要求阻止谷歌在使用其安卓移動(dòng)操作系統(tǒng)的設(shè)備上默認(rèn)使用其搜索引擎。如果谷歌今后違反了這一規(guī)定,根據(jù)政府的提議,它也必須剝離安卓系統(tǒng)。
Android runs on billions of smartphones from manufacturers such as Samsung, along with Google’s own Pixel devices.
三星等制造商生產(chǎn)的數(shù)十億部智能手機(jī)以及谷歌自己的Pixel設(shè)備上都運(yùn)行著安卓系統(tǒng)。
三星等制造商生產(chǎn)的數(shù)十億部智能手機(jī)以及谷歌自己的Pixel設(shè)備上都運(yùn)行著安卓系統(tǒng)。
Google would also be forbidden from paying to be the default search engine on any browser, including Chrome under its new owner. Google currently pays Apple tens of billions of dollars a year to be the default on its Safari browser.
谷歌還將被禁止付費(fèi)成為任何瀏覽器的默認(rèn)搜索引擎,包括新東家旗下的Chrome瀏覽器。目前,谷歌每年向蘋果公司支付數(shù)百億美元,以成為其Safari瀏覽器的默認(rèn)搜索引擎。
谷歌還將被禁止付費(fèi)成為任何瀏覽器的默認(rèn)搜索引擎,包括新東家旗下的Chrome瀏覽器。目前,谷歌每年向蘋果公司支付數(shù)百億美元,以成為其Safari瀏覽器的默認(rèn)搜索引擎。
“The remedy must enable and encourage the development of an unfettered search ecosystem that induces entry, competition and innovation as rivals vie to win the business of consumers and advertisers,” the department and over two dozen state plaintiffs wrote.
該部門和二十多個(gè)州的原告寫道:“補(bǔ)救措施必須能夠促進(jìn)和鼓勵(lì)不受約束的搜索生態(tài)系統(tǒng)的發(fā)展,從而在競爭對手爭奪消費(fèi)者和廣告商的業(yè)務(wù)時(shí)誘導(dǎo)進(jìn)入、競爭和創(chuàng)新?!?/b>
該部門和二十多個(gè)州的原告寫道:“補(bǔ)救措施必須能夠促進(jìn)和鼓勵(lì)不受約束的搜索生態(tài)系統(tǒng)的發(fā)展,從而在競爭對手爭奪消費(fèi)者和廣告商的業(yè)務(wù)時(shí)誘導(dǎo)進(jìn)入、競爭和創(chuàng)新?!?/b>
The government’s proposal also goes after Google’s role in the young artificial-intelligence market, which is starting to displace traditional search. The Justice Department wants the court to compel Google to allow website publishers to opt out of having their data used to train its AI models. Alternatively, the search giant could pay publishers to use their data.
政府的提案還針對谷歌在新生的人工智能市場中扮演的角色,因?yàn)槿斯ぶ悄苷_始取代傳統(tǒng)搜索。司法部希望法院強(qiáng)制谷歌允許網(wǎng)站出版商選擇不將其數(shù)據(jù)用于訓(xùn)練人工智能模型?;蛘?,谷歌可以付錢給出版商,讓谷歌利用其數(shù)據(jù)。
政府的提案還針對谷歌在新生的人工智能市場中扮演的角色,因?yàn)槿斯ぶ悄苷_始取代傳統(tǒng)搜索。司法部希望法院強(qiáng)制谷歌允許網(wǎng)站出版商選擇不將其數(shù)據(jù)用于訓(xùn)練人工智能模型?;蛘?,谷歌可以付錢給出版商,讓谷歌利用其數(shù)據(jù)。
Kent Walker, Google president of global affairs, described the Justice Department’s suggested remedy as a “wildly overbroad proposal” that would “harm Americans and America’s global technology leadership.” He said Google would file its own proposed remedy to the court in December.
谷歌全球事務(wù)總裁肯特-沃克認(rèn)為司法部提出的補(bǔ)救措施是一個(gè)“過于寬泛的建議”,將“損害美國人和美國的全球技術(shù)領(lǐng)導(dǎo)地位”。他說,谷歌將在12月向法院提交自己的補(bǔ)救建議。
谷歌全球事務(wù)總裁肯特-沃克認(rèn)為司法部提出的補(bǔ)救措施是一個(gè)“過于寬泛的建議”,將“損害美國人和美國的全球技術(shù)領(lǐng)導(dǎo)地位”。他說,谷歌將在12月向法院提交自己的補(bǔ)救建議。
About half of U.S. internet searches go through products where Google has paid to be the default, including Android phones, Apple devices and browsers such as Firefox, according to U.S. District Judge Amit Mehta’s opinion. Another 20% go through Chrome browsers that users have downloaded themselves and default to Google search.
根據(jù)美國地區(qū)法官阿米特-梅塔的意見,大約一半的美國互聯(lián)網(wǎng)搜索是通過谷歌付費(fèi)默認(rèn)使用的產(chǎn)品進(jìn)行的,包括安卓手機(jī)、蘋果設(shè)備和火狐等瀏覽器。另有20%的用戶通過自己下載的Chrome瀏覽器進(jìn)行搜索,這些瀏覽器也默認(rèn)使用谷歌搜索。
根據(jù)美國地區(qū)法官阿米特-梅塔的意見,大約一半的美國互聯(lián)網(wǎng)搜索是通過谷歌付費(fèi)默認(rèn)使用的產(chǎn)品進(jìn)行的,包括安卓手機(jī)、蘋果設(shè)備和火狐等瀏覽器。另有20%的用戶通過自己下載的Chrome瀏覽器進(jìn)行搜索,這些瀏覽器也默認(rèn)使用谷歌搜索。
Advertisements next to search results accounted for 57% of Google parent Alphabet’s $307 billion of revenue last year.
在谷歌母公司Alphabet去年3070億美元的收入中,搜索結(jié)果旁的廣告占了57%。
在谷歌母公司Alphabet去年3070億美元的收入中,搜索結(jié)果旁的廣告占了57%。
Mehta will oversee a trial starting in April to decide how to address Google’s antitrust violations. The judge has said he plans to decide by August. Google is expected to appeal his decision. That could delay the impact of a ruling for months or years.
梅塔將監(jiān)督明年4月份開始的審判,以決定如何處理谷歌的反壟斷違法行為。法官表示,他計(jì)劃在8月前做出裁決。預(yù)計(jì)谷歌將對他的裁決提出上訴。這可能會(huì)使裁決的影響推遲數(shù)月或數(shù)年。
A drastic proposal 一個(gè)大膽的建議
梅塔將監(jiān)督明年4月份開始的審判,以決定如何處理谷歌的反壟斷違法行為。法官表示,他計(jì)劃在8月前做出裁決。預(yù)計(jì)谷歌將對他的裁決提出上訴。這可能會(huì)使裁決的影響推遲數(shù)月或數(shù)年。
A drastic proposal 一個(gè)大膽的建議
Wednesday’s filing is the capstone of a legal effort by Biden administration antitrust enforcers to dilute the dominance of Google, Apple and Amazon.com. Google was the first of the defendants to get to a courtroom and the proposal to spin off Chrome shows how far the government will go to cut the tech giants down to size.
周三提交的文件是拜登政府反壟斷執(zhí)法人員為削弱谷歌、蘋果和亞馬遜公司的主導(dǎo)地位而進(jìn)行的法律努力的頂點(diǎn)。谷歌是第一個(gè)出庭的被告,而分拆Chrome瀏覽器的提案表明,政府將在多大程度上削減科技巨頭的規(guī)模。
周三提交的文件是拜登政府反壟斷執(zhí)法人員為削弱谷歌、蘋果和亞馬遜公司的主導(dǎo)地位而進(jìn)行的法律努力的頂點(diǎn)。谷歌是第一個(gè)出庭的被告,而分拆Chrome瀏覽器的提案表明,政府將在多大程度上削減科技巨頭的規(guī)模。
In an opinion 25 years ago, judges on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit vacated a lower court’s order to break up Microsoft. They suggest that remedy was only appropriate when a monopoly had been formed through mergers, as opposed to organically grown.
在25年前的一份意見書中,美國哥倫比亞特區(qū)巡回上訴法院的法官們撤銷了下級法院解散微軟的命令。他們認(rèn)為,只有當(dāng)壟斷不是自然成長而是通過兼并形成的,才適合采取這種補(bǔ)救措施。
在25年前的一份意見書中,美國哥倫比亞特區(qū)巡回上訴法院的法官們撤銷了下級法院解散微軟的命令。他們認(rèn)為,只有當(dāng)壟斷不是自然成長而是通過兼并形成的,才適合采取這種補(bǔ)救措施。
While the Justice Department will gain a new antitrust chief after President-elect Donald Trump takes office, Republicans have generally supported antitrust action against the company. The department filed the lawsuit in 2020 when Trump was president.
當(dāng)選總統(tǒng)唐納德-特朗普上任后,司法部將迎來一位新的反壟斷主管,但共和黨人普遍支持對該公司采取反壟斷行動(dòng)。司法部于2020年提起訴訟,當(dāng)時(shí)特朗普還是總統(tǒng)。
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當(dāng)選總統(tǒng)唐納德-特朗普上任后,司法部將迎來一位新的反壟斷主管,但共和黨人普遍支持對該公司采取反壟斷行動(dòng)。司法部于2020年提起訴訟,當(dāng)時(shí)特朗普還是總統(tǒng)。
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Google’s policy of pre-installing its search engine on Android devices and defaulting Chrome searches to itself have made it nearly impossible for rivals to gain the users and data required to improve their search engines and compete, Mehta ruled earlier this year.
梅塔今年早些時(shí)候裁定,谷歌在安卓設(shè)備上預(yù)裝搜索引擎和默認(rèn)使用Chrome瀏覽器搜索的政策使競爭對手幾乎不可能獲得改進(jìn)搜索引擎和競爭所需的用戶和數(shù)據(jù)。
梅塔今年早些時(shí)候裁定,谷歌在安卓設(shè)備上預(yù)裝搜索引擎和默認(rèn)使用Chrome瀏覽器搜索的政策使競爭對手幾乎不可能獲得改進(jìn)搜索引擎和競爭所需的用戶和數(shù)據(jù)。
Search engines typically improve based on the data they gather from searches conducted by users, in a cycle where success leads to higher quality which leads to even more success.
搜索引擎通常會(huì)根據(jù)從用戶搜索中收集到的數(shù)據(jù)進(jìn)行改進(jìn),在這個(gè)循環(huán)中,成功會(huì)帶來更高的質(zhì)量,而質(zhì)量又會(huì)帶來更大的成功。
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搜索引擎通常會(huì)根據(jù)從用戶搜索中收集到的數(shù)據(jù)進(jìn)行改進(jìn),在這個(gè)循環(huán)中,成功會(huì)帶來更高的質(zhì)量,而質(zhì)量又會(huì)帶來更大的成功。
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Spinning off Chrome and Android would be the most effective way to ensure other search engines get an opportunity to compete, said Fiona Scott Morton, a Yale University economist who served in the Justice Department during the Obama administration. As long as Google controls them, it will have a strong incentive to steer users toward its own search engine, she argued.
曾在奧巴馬政府期間任職于司法部的耶魯大學(xué)經(jīng)濟(jì)學(xué)家菲奧娜-斯科特-莫頓說,分拆Chrome和Android將是確保其他搜索引擎有機(jī)會(huì)參與競爭的最有效方式。她認(rèn)為,只要谷歌控制了這兩個(gè)搜索引擎,它就會(huì)有強(qiáng)烈的動(dòng)機(jī)把用戶引向自己的搜索引擎。
曾在奧巴馬政府期間任職于司法部的耶魯大學(xué)經(jīng)濟(jì)學(xué)家菲奧娜-斯科特-莫頓說,分拆Chrome和Android將是確保其他搜索引擎有機(jī)會(huì)參與競爭的最有效方式。她認(rèn)為,只要谷歌控制了這兩個(gè)搜索引擎,它就會(huì)有強(qiáng)烈的動(dòng)機(jī)把用戶引向自己的搜索引擎。
The Justice Department and the dozens of states that joined the lawsuit went back and forth on potential remedies in recent days. They initially planned to ask for a spinoff of Chrome only if Google failed to comply with limits on how it ties search to its other products.
最近幾天,司法部和加入訴訟的數(shù)十個(gè)州就潛在的補(bǔ)救措施進(jìn)行了反復(fù)討論。他們最初計(jì)劃,只有當(dāng)谷歌不遵守將搜索與其他產(chǎn)品聯(lián)系起來的限制時(shí),才會(huì)要求分拆Chrome瀏覽器。
最近幾天,司法部和加入訴訟的數(shù)十個(gè)州就潛在的補(bǔ)救措施進(jìn)行了反復(fù)討論。他們最初計(jì)劃,只有當(dāng)谷歌不遵守將搜索與其他產(chǎn)品聯(lián)系起來的限制時(shí),才會(huì)要求分拆Chrome瀏覽器。
But on Wednesday, the plaintiffs decided to seek a sale of Chrome independent of any other conditions, people familiar with the matter said.
但周三,原告決定尋求出售Chrome瀏覽器,不考慮任何其他條件。
Chrome’s importance to Google Chrome瀏覽器對谷歌的重要性
但周三,原告決定尋求出售Chrome瀏覽器,不考慮任何其他條件。
Chrome’s importance to Google Chrome瀏覽器對谷歌的重要性
Android and Chrome have been central to Google’s fortunes over the past two decades. Google CEO Sundar Pichai helped lead the development of Chrome in 2008 and later oversaw Android after its creator Andy Rubin stepped aside from his leadership role.
過去二十年來,安卓和Chrome瀏覽器一直是谷歌的核心業(yè)務(wù)。谷歌首席執(zhí)行官桑達(dá)爾-皮查伊在2008年幫助領(lǐng)導(dǎo)了Chrome瀏覽器的開發(fā),后來又在安卓系統(tǒng)的創(chuàng)建者安迪-魯賓卸任領(lǐng)導(dǎo)職務(wù)后負(fù)責(zé)監(jiān)管安卓系統(tǒng)。
過去二十年來,安卓和Chrome瀏覽器一直是谷歌的核心業(yè)務(wù)。谷歌首席執(zhí)行官桑達(dá)爾-皮查伊在2008年幫助領(lǐng)導(dǎo)了Chrome瀏覽器的開發(fā),后來又在安卓系統(tǒng)的創(chuàng)建者安迪-魯賓卸任領(lǐng)導(dǎo)職務(wù)后負(fù)責(zé)監(jiān)管安卓系統(tǒng)。
If Google sold Chrome, the new owner could sext a company to be the default search engine, or users might have to choose an option.
如果谷歌出售Chrome瀏覽器,新的所有者可以選擇一家公司作為默認(rèn)搜索引擎,或者用戶必須手動(dòng)選擇一個(gè)選項(xiàng)。
如果谷歌出售Chrome瀏覽器,新的所有者可以選擇一家公司作為默認(rèn)搜索引擎,或者用戶必須手動(dòng)選擇一個(gè)選項(xiàng)。
As the world’s most popular search engine, Google would likely still get many queries through Chrome, Safari and other browsers if the Justice Department gets its way. But even a small loss could upend an industry in which competitors including Microsoft’s Bing and the independent DuckDuckGo have single-digit market shares.
作為全球最受歡迎的搜索引擎,如果司法部得逞,谷歌可能仍會(huì)通過Chrome、Safari和其他瀏覽器獲得大量查詢。但即使是很小的損失,也可能會(huì)顛覆這個(gè)行業(yè),因?yàn)樵谶@個(gè)行業(yè)中,包括微軟必應(yīng)和獨(dú)立的DuckDuckGo(互聯(lián)網(wǎng)搜索引擎)在內(nèi)的競爭對手的市場份額僅為個(gè)位數(shù)。
作為全球最受歡迎的搜索引擎,如果司法部得逞,谷歌可能仍會(huì)通過Chrome、Safari和其他瀏覽器獲得大量查詢。但即使是很小的損失,也可能會(huì)顛覆這個(gè)行業(yè),因?yàn)樵谶@個(gè)行業(yè)中,包括微軟必應(yīng)和獨(dú)立的DuckDuckGo(互聯(lián)網(wǎng)搜索引擎)在內(nèi)的競爭對手的市場份額僅為個(gè)位數(shù)。
DuckDuckGo said queries through its search engine on Chrome rose about 75% in Europe after Google introduced a “choice screen” in the browser in response to the European unx’s Digital Markets Act.
DuckDuckGo表示,在谷歌為響應(yīng)歐盟《數(shù)字市場法案》而在瀏覽器中引入“瀏覽器選擇屏”后,Chrome瀏覽器上的搜索引擎查詢量在歐洲上升了約75%。
DuckDuckGo表示,在谷歌為響應(yīng)歐盟《數(shù)字市場法案》而在瀏覽器中引入“瀏覽器選擇屏”后,Chrome瀏覽器上的搜索引擎查詢量在歐洲上升了約75%。
A divestiture of Chrome would also deprive Google of user data that help it deliver targeted advertisements. Google encourages users to sign in when using Chrome, which makes it easier for the company to track their online activity.
剝離Chrome瀏覽器還將使谷歌失去幫助其發(fā)布定向廣告的用戶數(shù)據(jù)。谷歌鼓勵(lì)用戶在使用Chrome瀏覽器時(shí)登錄,這使該公司更容易跟蹤用戶的在線活動(dòng)。
剝離Chrome瀏覽器還將使谷歌失去幫助其發(fā)布定向廣告的用戶數(shù)據(jù)。谷歌鼓勵(lì)用戶在使用Chrome瀏覽器時(shí)登錄,這使該公司更容易跟蹤用戶的在線活動(dòng)。
The Justice Department’s proposal asks for Google to have to share its search data with competitors.
司法部的提案要求谷歌必須與競爭對手共享搜索數(shù)據(jù)。
司法部的提案要求谷歌必須與競爭對手共享搜索數(shù)據(jù)。
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Bureaucrats love nothing more to do than punish success. And for the EU, the golden trophy is to nail American companies.
官僚們最喜歡做的事就是懲罰成功者。對歐盟來說,釘死美國公司就是獲得了金獎(jiǎng)杯。
The EU can't innovate so they enthusiastically punish those who do but it won't help their moribund economies.
歐盟不能創(chuàng)新,所以他們熱衷于懲罰那些創(chuàng)新的人,但這無助于他們奄奄一息的經(jīng)濟(jì)。
The EU is green and they have freeeee college, how dare you
歐盟是綠色國家,他們有免費(fèi)的大學(xué),你怎么敢這樣說的?
I'm not so sure. I feel as though Google/YouTube/Facebook/Instagram are actually trying to shut down competition. Anytime a challenger starts to gain success, Google/Facebook go to that company and offers to buy them out. If they don't accept, Google/Facebook just copies what they do and run them out of business. Thus, the potential FUTURE innovation of that company is stamped out. Snapchat is an example of this.
我不太確定。我覺得,谷歌/YouTube/Facebook/Instagram實(shí)際上是在阻止競爭。只要有挑戰(zhàn)者開始獲得成功,谷歌/Facebook就會(huì)去找那家公司,提出收購它們。如果他們不接受,Google/Facebook就會(huì)復(fù)制他們的做法,讓他們倒閉。這樣,該公司潛在的未來創(chuàng)新能力就被扼殺了。Snapchat(“閱后即焚”照片分享應(yīng)用)就是一個(gè)例子。
Microsoft has been doing this for decades. They don't even have the decency to offer to buy the other company out. They just use profits from DOS/Windows/Office to subsidize their inferior product, whatever it is, until their competition can't stay in business, then Microsoft's price goes up.
幾十年來,微軟一直在這樣做。他們甚至連提出收購另一家公司的意愿都沒有。他們只是用DOS/Windows/Office的利潤來補(bǔ)貼他們的劣質(zhì)產(chǎn)品,不管是什么,直到他們的競爭對手無法繼續(xù)經(jīng)營,然后微軟的股價(jià)就會(huì)上漲。
You realize that all these companies are violently competing with each other, right? They have all tried and failed to attack each other’s core businesses.
你知道所有這些公司之間的競爭都很激烈吧?它們都曾試圖攻擊對方的核心業(yè)務(wù),但都失敗了。
當(dāng)所有人都還在使用IE瀏覽器時(shí),谷歌就推出了chrome瀏覽器(火狐瀏覽器是一個(gè)勇敢的后起之秀)。微軟的史蒂夫-巴爾默推出了必應(yīng),并表示他們要“干掉谷歌”。亞馬遜推出了Fire手機(jī),試圖蠶食安卓手機(jī)的市場份額。谷歌推出了Google Shopping Express與亞馬遜競爭,推出了Google Plus與Facebook競爭,而Facebook messenger又與Gmail競爭?,F(xiàn)在,蘋果和Facebook正在VR領(lǐng)域展開競爭。
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是的,初創(chuàng)企業(yè)很難涉足其中,但所有這些價(jià)值數(shù)萬億美元的龐然大物一直在相互競爭??萍碱I(lǐng)域的競爭絕對激烈。
Nonsense! Google should appeal all the way to the Supreme Court.
胡說八道!谷歌應(yīng)該一直上訴到最高法院。
對不起,谷歌并沒有壟斷搜索引擎。市場上還有其他幾個(gè)搜索引擎,如微軟的Edge瀏覽器。谷歌更勝一籌,知道如何在市場競爭中贏得客戶,但這并不意味著谷歌是壟斷者。
司法部的人需要學(xué)習(xí)基本的經(jīng)濟(jì)學(xué)知識,判決谷歌敗訴的法官也應(yīng)該如此。美國政府無恥。無恥。無恥。無恥。
Remember. Most of the people at DOJ have never held a private sector job. Destruction is their little rush of power.
請記住司法部的大多數(shù)人從未在私營部門工作過。毀滅是他們小小的權(quán)力沖動(dòng)。
Well said.
說得好啊
That’s just in the USA. Europe is full of little robber barons eager to take down a US tech giant. Margrethe Vestager chief among them.
這只是在美國。歐洲到處都是渴望打倒美國科技巨頭的小強(qiáng)盜。瑪格麗特-維斯塔格就是其中的佼佼者。
Edge isn't a search engine. It's a web browser. Chrome is also a browser. Chrome is not a search engine. You can use Chrome to search on Bing, Duckduckgo, Yahoo, Ask Jeevs (if it's still there), Alta Vista (again, if you can find it), just like you can with Edge.
Edge不是搜索引擎。它是一個(gè)網(wǎng)頁瀏覽器。Chrome也是一款瀏覽器。Chrome瀏覽器不是搜索引擎。你可以用Chrome瀏覽器搜索Bing、Duckduckgo、Yahoo、Ask Jeevs(如果它還在)、Alta Vista(同樣,如果你能找到的話),就像用Edge一樣。
這兩者是有區(qū)別的,而且區(qū)別很大。
但你說得完全正確。美國政府懲罰成功是可恥的。
要想達(dá)到同樣的目的,一個(gè)簡單得多的補(bǔ)救措施就是強(qiáng)迫最終用戶在安裝Chrome瀏覽器或首次使用安卓系統(tǒng)時(shí)選擇一個(gè)搜索引擎。但這不會(huì)讓政府(是的,特朗普的政府也是如此,因?yàn)檫@是他挑起的事端)有能力通過打擊一家成功的公司來獲得快感。
Search engine users do not pay to search. Search engine manufacturers sell users' eyeballs to advertisers. Search engines compete with broadcast and print mass media, junk mail, spam e.mailers, billboards, etc. for the eyeball advertisers crave. Are spammers and bulk mailers suffering lost revenues at the hands of search engine manufacturers? How much too much are advertisers paying search engine-delivered eyeballs? Just asking for some friends.
搜索引擎用戶搜索無需付費(fèi)。搜索引擎制造商將用戶的流量賣給廣告商。搜索引擎與廣播和印刷大眾媒體、垃圾郵件、垃圾電子郵件、廣告牌等爭奪廣告商渴望的流量。垃圾郵件發(fā)送者和大宗郵件發(fā)送者是否在搜索引擎制造商手中蒙受了收入損失?廣告商為搜索引擎帶來的流量付出了多少代價(jià)?只是想請教一些朋友。
Google came into the browser business with virtually zero market share and yet a clean and simple product. Through many revisions during several years they built a superior product. But it took them a very VERY long time to gain leading marketshare.
谷歌進(jìn)入瀏覽器行業(yè)時(shí),市場份額幾乎為零,但產(chǎn)品卻簡潔明了。經(jīng)過幾年的多次修改,他們打造出了一款卓越的產(chǎn)品。但他們花了非常非常長的時(shí)間才獲得領(lǐng)先的市場份額。
這就是成功來之不易的代價(jià)?這就是資本主義?你花了很多年打造了一個(gè)偉大的產(chǎn)品,獲得了領(lǐng)導(dǎo)地位,然后卻不得不拋棄它?這是一種侮辱。
順便說一句,我不僅從未為谷歌工作過。本世紀(jì)初,我曾為一家主要的OEM搜索競爭對手工作過。谷歌贏了。我們輸了。如果說有誰應(yīng)該支持制裁谷歌,那一定是我。但我不支持。
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Let’s punish a good company for being successful. I thought it was America? Where’s the freedom? Google is a superior product. Period. People can choose, they are not stupid.
讓我們懲罰一家成功的好公司吧。我覺得咱們這里不是美國嗎?自由在哪呢?谷歌是一個(gè)卓越的產(chǎn)品。就是這樣。人們會(huì)自己選擇,他們又不傻。
America historically forcefully splits and severely limits monopolies to encourage competitions, whether it's Standard Oil, AT&T, Microsoft, or Google.
無論是標(biāo)準(zhǔn)石油公司、美國電話電報(bào)公司、微軟還是谷歌,美國歷來都會(huì)強(qiáng)行拆分并嚴(yán)格限制壟斷企業(yè),以鼓勵(lì)競爭。
This is US v. Microsoft II. The DOJ learns nothing from its earlier failures.
這是美國訴微軟案的再版。司法部從之前的失敗中一無所獲。
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MS is pure sleaze. I remember the "embrace, extend, exterminate" tactic - it's what made them who they are. Just a few months ago, I found my mom's win 11 machine stopped backing up to the NAS an magically all her data is on the cloud for "free". Right, they're mining her data.
微軟純粹是個(gè)騙子。我還記得“擁抱、擴(kuò)展、消滅”的策略,正是這種策略造就了他們。就在幾個(gè)月前,我發(fā)現(xiàn)我媽媽的Windows11電腦不再備份到NAS,而她的所有數(shù)據(jù)都神奇地“免費(fèi)”存在云端。沒錯(cuò),他們在挖掘她的數(shù)據(jù)。
這種人要去地獄里專門的地方待著。
Obviously, those who made this decision don't use normal browsers, and aren't interested in the facts, that no one, absolutely no one, is harmed in any way by the design of Google, as it is one of the best inventions in tech that there is.
顯然,做出這一決定的人并不使用普通瀏覽器,也不關(guān)心事實(shí),即沒有人,絕對沒有人,會(huì)因?yàn)楣雀璧脑O(shè)計(jì)而受到任何傷害,因?yàn)樗强萍碱I(lǐng)域最好的發(fā)明之一。
Are there actual consumers who are complaining and driving this process? I doubt it.
是否有真正的消費(fèi)者在抱怨并推動(dòng)這一進(jìn)程?我對此表示懷疑。
這不過是政府官僚對成功企業(yè)心存芥蒂罷了。這是出于嫉妒和對自由市場贏家的蔑視。
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I can't stand Google and their skewed search results but I agree, this seems like a random act of bureaucracy. No surprise given today's DOJ.
我無法忍受谷歌及其歪曲的搜索結(jié)果,但我同意,這似乎是官僚機(jī)構(gòu)的隨意行為。鑒于如今的司法部,這并不奇怪。
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Maybe they can force Microsoft off their wretched Edge browser that despite every setting that you don't want it, will still launch itself for you.
也許他們可以迫使微軟停止使用他們可惡的Edge瀏覽器,盡管所有的設(shè)置都表明你不想要它,但它還是會(huì)自動(dòng)為你啟動(dòng)。