中國哪個(gè)城市的生活質(zhì)量最接近發(fā)達(dá)國家的城市？
Which city in China has the "closest" quality of life comparable to that of developed countries’ cities?
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網(wǎng)友：既然你很看重環(huán)境質(zhì)量，我推薦深圳。這是一個(gè)顯而易見的選擇。我曾在大連居住了7年，可以告訴你那里已經(jīng)不再清潔。青島也是如此，由于依賴燃煤的供暖系統(tǒng)，中國北方的冬天，霧霾是不可避免的。在所有中國主要城市中，深圳擁有最佳的空氣質(zhì)量......
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Which city in China has the "closest" quality of life comparable to that of developed countries’ cities?
中國哪個(gè)城市的生活質(zhì)量最接近發(fā)達(dá)國家的城市？
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Which city in China has the "closest" quality of life comparable to that of developed countries city?
Since you stress a lot on environmental quality, I'd also recommend Shenzhen. It's an easy choice. I've lived in Dalian for 7 years and can tell you it's no longer clean. Same for Qingdao, smoggy winters are guaranteed in North China due to the heating system that relies on coal burning.
Shenzhen boasts the best air quality among all major Chinese cities.
中國哪個(gè)城市的生活質(zhì)量最接近發(fā)達(dá)國家城市的水平？
既然你很看重環(huán)境質(zhì)量，我推薦深圳。這是一個(gè)顯而易見的選擇。我曾在大連居住了7年，可以告訴你那里已經(jīng)不再清潔。青島也是如此，由于依賴燃煤的供暖系統(tǒng)，中國北方的冬天，霧霾是不可避免的。
在所有中國主要城市中，深圳擁有最佳的空氣質(zhì)量。
It's GDP aggregate is about the same size as that of Hong Kong; it's GDP per capita is on the same level with Czech Republic and South Korea. Shenzhen offers you the quality of life that you can't access in many developed western cities, yes, I'm sure, if you stay in the right places, namely Nanshan, Futian and a bit of Luohu districts. But these areas are big enough for most expats in Shenzhen. You'll see world class skyline and infrastructure, as well as efficient public transport system that makes your life neat and efficient.
它全年綠意盎然，這得益于其亞熱帶氣候和出色的綠化覆蓋，在這方面勝過了所有北方城市。深圳的綠色讓我百看不厭，即便是在市中心或高速公路旁也是如此。
深圳的總GDP與香港（特區(qū)）相當(dāng)；其人均GDP與捷克和韓國處于同一水平。深圳能提供你在許多發(fā)達(dá)的西方城市中難以獲得的生活質(zhì)量，沒錯(cuò)，我確信，如果你住在南山、福田以及部分羅湖區(qū)這些地方，你將體驗(yàn)到這一點(diǎn)。這些區(qū)域?qū)τ诖蠖鄶?shù)在深圳的外國人來說已經(jīng)足夠大了。在這里，你將看到世界級的天際線和基礎(chǔ)設(shè)施，以及高效的公共交通系統(tǒng)，讓你的生活變得井井有條和高效。
Very importantly, if you want to take a breathe in the "free world", Hong Kong is just a river away! This is the single biggest lure as well as convenience to me, as I still have HK residency and can go back and forth through Shenzhen quite easily.
To balance the scale, I'll have to mention the things that are less nice there:
深圳也是一個(gè)充滿新鮮感和活力的新興城市，吸引了全國各地乃至全球的移民。深圳居民的平均年齡僅略超過30歲。這里總能為你提供新鮮和激動(dòng)人心的事物。如果你喜歡這種氛圍，那么深圳就是正確的地方。龐大且不斷增長的外籍人士社區(qū)將使你遠(yuǎn)離孤立感。
非常重要的一點(diǎn)是，如果你想在“自由世界”中呼吸新鮮空氣，香港（特區(qū)）僅一河之隔！這對我來說是最大的吸引力和便利，因?yàn)槲胰匀粨碛邢愀郏ㄌ貐^(qū)）居留權(quán)，可以輕松往返深圳。
為了平衡觀點(diǎn)，我必須提到深圳的一些不足之處：
選擇深圳意味著你將生活在一個(gè)最具現(xiàn)代感、最不具中國特色的城市。作為最新的大都市，它在城市部分沒有任何歷史遺產(chǎn)。但如果你渴望文化體驗(yàn)，可以來廣州——乘火車只需1.5小時(shí)即可到達(dá)。
寶安、羅湖、龍華和龍崗區(qū)的部分地區(qū)仍然相當(dāng)普通且臟亂，但仍然高于全國平均水平。
日常開銷高于許多其他城市，尤其是住房。深圳的房價(jià)近年來在所有主要城市中漲幅最大，且仍在持續(xù)上漲。這影響了幾乎所有商品的價(jià)格。但同時(shí)，你的收入也會(huì)相應(yīng)更高。
if you are skilled or from a strong family background, you live well in any country. Otherwise, you are miserable even in luxembourg or qatar. I live in silicon valley, poverty people here are more pathetic than in north korea.
如果你有技術(shù)或擁有一個(gè)強(qiáng)大的家庭背景，你在任何國家都生活得很好。否則，即使在盧森堡或卡塔爾，你也會(huì)很痛苦。我住在硅谷，這里的窮人比在朝鮮的還要悲慘。
Quite agree on the points you've listed,from a native university student in BJ!
作為一個(gè)北京的本地大學(xué)生，我非常同意你列出的觀點(diǎn)！
Where in China will we not be forced to see the slaugthering of dogs and cats ?
在中國的哪些地方，我們不會(huì)被迫看到屠宰狗和貓的情況？
Pretty much everywhere.
幾乎任何地方都不會(huì)看到。
The people are just nice. If one has the "uncivilized Chinese" mindset, then perhaps staying out of China is a better choice, as you'll inevitably bump into some that act weird, especially at the train stations in every Chinese city. But generally it's fine. Why don't you come for a 2-day visit to shake off the bias derived from western media?
You're not suggested to drive a car in any Chinese city, although Shenzhen has the most advanced technologies and laws to regulate traffic. The public transport is enough for most people, including expats. If you have a lot to spend, lease a car and a driver is fine.
人們通常都很友好。如果有人持有“中國人不文明”的心態(tài)，那么或許避開中國是更好的選擇，因?yàn)槟汶y免會(huì)遇到一些行為怪異的人，尤其是在每個(gè)中國城市的火車站，但總體上是好的。你為什么不來體驗(yàn)兩天，擺脫西方媒體的偏見呢？
我不建議你在任何中國城市開車，盡管深圳擁有最先進(jìn)的技術(shù)和法律來規(guī)范交通（也不建議）。公共交通對大多數(shù)人，包括外籍人士來說已經(jīng)足夠了。如果你有很多錢，租一輛車和司機(jī)也是可以的。
Upvoted for first paragraph, I was going to write the same thing. As for driving - Shenzhen like all Chinese cities has a good public transport system. But the city is very car-oriented and is not really laid out well to make transit convenient. Living in Shanghai, I don't have a car, but if I moved to Shenzhen I would seriously consider it.
我同意第一段的觀點(diǎn)，我正準(zhǔn)備寫同樣的話。至于開車——深圳像所有中國城市一樣有良好的公共交通系統(tǒng)。但這個(gè)城市非常以汽車為中心，并沒有真正布局好以使交通方便。我住在上海，沒有車，但如果我搬到深圳，我會(huì)認(rèn)真考慮買車的。
I understand what you mean with the "uncivilized Chinese" comment. But you have to keep in mind that China is an immense country. There are literally more people in China than there are in the US and all of Europe put together, so even if only 1/2% of Chinese engage in "uncivilized" behavior, you're going to run into it.
That being said, considering that China has a much, much lower violent crime rate than either the US or Europe despite much higher population, you might very well ask why either is so "uncivilized"
我理解你所說的“中國人不文明”的意思。但你必須記住，中國是一個(gè)龐大的國家。中國的人比美國和歐洲加起來還要多，所以即使只有1%到2%的中國人具備“不文明”的行為，你也會(huì)碰到。
話雖如此，考慮到盡管人口多得多，中國的暴力犯罪率卻遠(yuǎn)低于美國或歐洲，你可能會(huì)問為什么美國或歐洲都如此“不文明”。
I bumped into uncivilized people and way more weird people than in China on SF streets everyday, ironically. And SF is just a city with under 1 million population, while most Chinese cities easily have over 5 million.
The point is uncivilized people could be everywhere, given how immense China is.
諷刺的是，我每天在舊金山街頭碰到的不文明和怪異的人比在中國還多。而舊金山只是一個(gè)人口不到100萬的城市，而大多數(shù)中國城市人口數(shù)量輕易就超過500萬。
關(guān)鍵是，考慮到中國如此大，不文明的人可能無處不在。
Your bias is just ridiculous. Cities in western countries like New York have way more uncivilised people than Shenzhen. You can see people shouting, asking for money and arguing with each other on subway trains in downtown New York.
你的偏見太荒謬了。像紐約這樣的西方國家城市比深圳有更多的不文明人。你可以在紐約市中心的地鐵列車上看到人們大喊大叫、要錢和互相爭吵。
Shenzhen people are not as well-mannered as Hong Kong people on average, based on my observation on SZ Metro and HK MTR.
Expats coming from developed countries are strongly suggested to be mentally prepared before they start driving on the road. There are (much) less civilized drivers here than in HK. But roads here are wider.
根據(jù)我對深圳地鐵和香港（特區(qū)）地鐵的觀察，深圳人的禮貌程度，平均而言是不如香港（特區(qū)）人的。
強(qiáng)烈建議來自發(fā)達(dá)國家的外國人在上路開車前要做好心理準(zhǔn)備。這里的司機(jī)比香港（特區(qū)）的司機(jī)更不文明。但這里的道路更寬闊。
Which city in China has the "closest" quality of life comparable to that of developed countries city?
I currently live in Shenzhen and love every minute of it.
中國哪個(gè)城市的生活質(zhì)量最接近發(fā)達(dá)國家城市的水平？
我目前居住在深圳，并且享受在這里的每一刻。
Environmentally, it is the cleanest tier 1 city in China. The air quality is consistently good even by western standard, there are tons of parks in the city centre where you can go for hiking and picnicking. While the summer is pretty damn hot and lasts for 4-5 months, the rest of year is blessed with warm temperature that you can walk outside with a jacket on....for most of time. If you love a combination of robust city life and plenty of greenery, Shenzhen is where you want to be. The ocean and beach is also a nice bonus.
經(jīng)濟(jì)上，深圳是中國最繁榮的城市之一，擁有活躍的科技和金融產(chǎn)業(yè)。如果你是一個(gè)對智能硬件/互聯(lián)網(wǎng)領(lǐng)域有濃厚興趣的企業(yè)家，深圳就是你理想的城市。
環(huán)境上，深圳是中國最清潔的一線城市。空氣質(zhì)量即使按照西方標(biāo)準(zhǔn)也是持續(xù)良好的，市中心有許多公園，適合徒步和野餐。雖然夏天非常炎熱，且持續(xù)4-5個(gè)月，但其他時(shí)間氣候溫暖，大多數(shù)時(shí)候你可以穿著夾克外出。如果你喜歡繁華城市生活和豐富的綠地相結(jié)合的環(huán)境，深圳就是你的理想之地。海洋和海灘也是深圳的額外福利。
Overall, I think Shenzhen is already the San Francisco of China. At the current rate of development, San Francisco will be known as the Shenzhen of America in thirty years.
社交上，與上海和北京相比，深圳略顯遜色。這座城市還很新，盡管文化場景正在迅速發(fā)展，但與其他一線城市相比仍有差距。食物方面尚可，種類多樣，但我覺得質(zhì)量和地道程度一般。然而，深圳緊鄰香港（特區(qū)），意味著你可以快速前往香港（特區(qū)）享受美食。
總的來說，我認(rèn)為深圳已經(jīng)是中國的舊金山。按照目前的發(fā)展速度，三十年后，舊金山可能會(huì)被稱為美國的深圳。
While Shenzhen cannot culturally rival San Francisco now, the city is developing its own charms now with some really nice areas popping out from left to right. I think in the next 30-40 years, it could develop some really lovely cultural centres that can put it in the same league with San Francisco.
雖然深圳在文化上現(xiàn)在還無法與舊金山相媲美，但這座城市正在發(fā)展出自己的獨(dú)特魅力，許多非常好的區(qū)域正在不斷涌現(xiàn)。我認(rèn)為在未來30-40年，深圳可能會(huì)發(fā)展出一些非常迷人的文化中心，使其與舊金山處于同一水平。
Let's hope so!
希望如此！
Like I have said before, it is closest thing to SF in China. The charm is a byproduct of one city's history. I think it is just a matter of time before Shenzhen develops its own charm
正如我之前所說，深圳是中國最像舊金山的城市。魅力是一個(gè)城市歷史的副產(chǎn)品。我相信深圳遲早會(huì)發(fā)展出自己的獨(dú)特魅力。
Which city in China has the "closest" quality of life comparable to that of developed countries city?
If you like Hongkong Singapore, or you think they are delvoped country, I'd say Shanghai look alike them.
If you prefer a bit history, have some story in it, with historiical things around, then Beijing. Part of Beijing also tall buildings but not everywhere.
中國哪個(gè)城市的生活質(zhì)量最接近發(fā)達(dá)國家城市的水平？
如果你喜歡香港（特區(qū)）、新加坡，或者認(rèn)為它們是發(fā)達(dá)國家城市，那么我認(rèn)為上海最像它們。
如果你偏好有歷史感、故事性，周圍有歷史遺跡的地方，那么選擇北京。北京部分地區(qū)也有高樓大廈，但高樓大廈并非遍布全城。
Shanghai more like Hongkong Singapore maybe like Tokyo since a lot people in Shanghai as well,, a bit tidy road mostly.
In Shanghai the air conditioning in winter, like Hongkong or Singapore. But! Too cold for air conditioning. Consider of that, think carefully for going in winter, Beijing more like cold contry or city with heat inside. Well Beijing's air quilaty isn't so good, but they always control it by make some rain and wind, so better than lot's of other developing country, better than other small city or village where construction still keep going .
北京的道路比較寬闊，因此城市看起來比上海更加寬廣。八車道的交通干道很常見，給人一種王國領(lǐng)土遼闊的印象。
上海則更像香港（特區(qū)）、新加坡，甚至有些地方與東京相似，因?yàn)樯虾Ｍ瑯尤丝诒姸?，而且街道大多比較整潔有序。
上海的冬天有空調(diào)設(shè)施，類似于香港（特區(qū)）或新加坡。但是，即使有空調(diào)，冬天也非常冷。因此，如果你打算冬天去上海，需要仔細(xì)考慮這一點(diǎn)。北京則更像是一個(gè)室內(nèi)有供暖的寒冷城市。北京的空氣質(zhì)量并不是很好，但他們通過人工降雨和風(fēng)來控制空氣質(zhì)量，所以比許多其他發(fā)展中國家要好，也比那些仍在進(jìn)行建筑施工的小城市或村莊要好。
"the "closest" quality of life comparable to that of developed countries city"
我剛從新加坡來到蘭卡威，計(jì)劃享受寧靜和白色沙灘的海灘。但蘭卡威有許多建筑工地（只是部分地區(qū)，不是到處都有），塵土讓我過敏（如果我走在那些區(qū)域的街上的話）。相比之下，北京好多了，至少我在北京沒有過敏。
說到“最接近”發(fā)達(dá)國家城市的生活質(zhì)量，北京和上海的許多區(qū)域會(huì)讓你感到非常舒適，你可以租到高端公寓，許多“西式”超市（出售各種進(jìn)口商品），你可以買到各種品牌（盡管有些可能稍貴），還可以選擇豐富的食物。你幾乎不需要從家鄉(xiāng)帶來任何東西，因?yàn)橐磺卸寄敲慈菀踪I到。西餐或亞洲餐廳隨處可見。在上海，英語主要是通用的語言，北京也差不多，你可以很容易地找到志同道合的朋友。
The difference are: people. Speak loud in public,eat in Public, traffic jam happen everyday with bad drivers and press horn some times. They are not mean to do that, they just never learned in a way to understand of respect other people in public. Its changing with no smoking everywhere etc, but take some time. Oh, also people wait in line as well .
有了Uber，你甚至不再需要公共交通，而且到處都有自行車道。
不同之處在于：人們在公共場合大聲說話、吃東西，幾乎每天都有發(fā)生交通堵塞的情況，有些司機(jī)駕駛習(xí)慣不佳，有時(shí)會(huì)按喇叭。他們并非有意為之，只是可能沒有學(xué)會(huì)如何在公共場合尊重他人。隨著禁煙等措施的實(shí)施，這種情況正在改變，但需要時(shí)間。哦，還有，人們也會(huì)排隊(duì)。
哦，還有另一個(gè)不同之處，如果你喜歡爵士音樂，就應(yīng)該去上海。而對于那些更具創(chuàng)造力的地下音樂場景、音樂家、電影導(dǎo)演等，北京會(huì)是更好的選擇。
中國的其他城市與北京和上海相比還有一定差距。差異主要體現(xiàn)在：西餐廳的選擇（主要是西方人會(huì)選擇去正宗的意大利餐廳，而不是意大利風(fēng)格的餐廳）、進(jìn)口超市、說英語的人數(shù)、來自你祖國的人群以及各種活動(dòng)……這些方面的種類并不那么豐富。這些城市的外表可能看起來像發(fā)達(dá)國家，但要真正感受到發(fā)達(dá)國家的生活方式，還需要更多的社交圈子、餐飲選擇、購物便利、交通設(shè)施和娛樂活動(dòng)等。
Which city in China has the "closest" quality of life comparable to that of developed countries city?
qingdao in east china
because really qingdao its getting better tym after time
and don't forget that its shipps goods can import and export
中國哪個(gè)城市的生活質(zhì)量最接近發(fā)達(dá)國家城市的水平？
中國東部的青島。
因?yàn)榍鄭u確實(shí)隨著時(shí)間的推移在不斷進(jìn)步，并且不要忘記，青島是有能力進(jìn)出口貨物的。
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