盡管存在歧視，為什么菲律賓人仍然如此崇拜韓國人？

Why do Filipinos look up to Koreans so highly despite the discrimination?

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網友：我覺得大多數東南亞人都這樣，尤其是年輕一代。這個Quora上的人似乎都比較…年長…但我還年輕，所以我知道那種感覺。我是越南人，我見過很多東南亞人說他們來自首爾，會說一口半吊子的韓語……

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Kobe.
I feel like most Southeast asians do, especially the younger generation.
Everyone on this side of quora is rather… old… but i’m still young so I know how it’s like.
I’m Vietnamese, and i’ve seen bunches of SEA’s say they come from Seoul and speak half assed korean, obsessed with K-pop and K-dramas, and eat korean things and post it online with like korean music or something like that. Also “ulzzang” influenced selfies and filters with heavy photoshop and skin brightening. (Skin lightning is common in SEA either way)

我覺得大多數東南亞人都這樣，尤其是年輕一代。
這個Quora上的人似乎都比較…年長…但我還年輕，所以我知道那種感覺。
我是越南人，我見過很多東南亞人說他們來自首爾，會說一口半吊子的韓語，癡迷于K-pop和韓劇，吃韓國的食物并在網上發(fā)布，配上韓國音樂之類的東西。還有“ulzzang”風格的自拍和重度PS修圖、膚色亮白的濾鏡。（無論如何，膚色亮白在東南亞很常見。）

The thing with SEA is the fact that SK is developed compared to countries like the Phillippines, Malaysia, Indonesia, Cambodia, ETC. They romanticize this because they are young, and they ignore or is unaware of the colorism.
I’ve seen bunches of viet koreaboos, and trust me they are SO annoying. But it’s more common among “FOBS” than asian americans. Some say they’re half korean, born in Seoul, live in Seoul, etc.
I know this doesn’t necessarily answer your question, but I think it’s because the korean wave is very strong ATM, and they are just obsessing over anything korean.

東南亞的情況是，韓國比菲律賓、馬來西亞、印度尼西亞、柬埔寨等國家要發(fā)達。他們因為年輕而浪漫化這一點，忽視或不了解膚色主義。
我見過很多越南的“韓流迷”，相信我，他們真的很煩。但這種情況在“外來移民”（FOB）中比在美籍亞洲人中更常見。有些人說自己是半韓裔，出生在首爾，住在首爾等等。
我知道這不完全回答你的問題，但我覺得這主要是因為韓流現在非常強大，他們只是沉迷于一切與韓國有關的東西。

評論翻譯

Toffee Fornesus
I think it shows the success in South Korea’s international campaign of soft power through K-Pop, K-Drama and K-Beauty in ways similar to Japan’s prominence in anime, technology (in the 90’s anyway), and in spreading their culture.

我認為這顯示了韓國通過K-pop、K-Drama和K-Beauty在國際軟實力推廣上的成功，類似于日本在動漫、科技（尤其是在90年代）以及傳播其文化方面的突出表現。

At the same time, Filipinos face discrimination in South Korea, Japan, Singapore, and basically every nation where we are a visible minority group, even in Malaysia despite the clear cultural relationships and essentially having similar phenotypes.

與此同時，菲律賓人在韓國、日本、新加坡等國家面臨歧視，基本上所有菲律賓人在這些國家都屬于少數族裔群體，即使是在馬來西亞，盡管兩國有著明顯的文化關系，且外貌特征相似。

Filipinos still appreciate American culture, Japanese culture, Korean culture, etc. despite the ways that we are discriminated against in these nations due to the open-mindedness that we ultimately inherited from our ancestors.

盡管在這些國家受到歧視，菲律賓人依然欣賞美國文化、日本文化、韓國文化等，這是因為我們最終繼承了祖先的開放心態(tài)。

Maritime Southeast Asia, as a whole, used to be considered lands of diversity due to the region’s strategic location at the cross roads of the Pacific, the Indian, and East Asian cultural spheres and the trade amongst these, and cultures beyond, that shaped the once powerful economic trade relationships and intellectual exchange of ideas common throughout the islands of Maritime Southeast Asia.

整個海上東南亞地區(qū)曾經被視為多樣性的土地，因為這個地區(qū)位于太平洋、印度洋和東亞文化圈的交匯處，且這些地區(qū)之間的貿易以及與更遠地方的文化交流塑造了曾經強大的經濟貿易關系和思想交流，貫穿整個海上東南亞群島。

So, even during times of subjugation, our ancestors simultaneously kept their cultures alive while enhancing them with the new ideas that come from foreigners, whether they be invaders or traders. Despite colonial encroachment from Spain, the UK and the US, and the short term imperialism from Japanese soldiers, Filipinos only became more open-minded, more diverse, and never allowed themselves to stereotype and show hatred towards other groups, at least until the Spanish and Americans taught us to hate Black people and our Philippine Negrito populace.

所以，即使在被征服的時期，我們的祖先一方面保持著本土文化的活力，同時也融合了外來思想，不論這些外來者是侵略者還是商人。盡管西班牙、英國和美國的殖民侵略，以及日本軍人的短期帝國主義統(tǒng)治，菲律賓人依然變得更加開放、多元，從不讓自己形成對其他群體的刻板印象或表現出仇恨，至少在西班牙人和美國人教導我們仇恨黑人和菲律賓尼格里托群體之前。

So, no, the influx of Korean cultural influence won’t do much other than give Filipinos yet another cultural obsession, which honestly makes sense (and may even be overdue) due to the many Koreans who go to the Philippines to learn English or even thrive in the business spheres.

所以，不，韓國文化影響的涌入不會帶來太大的改變，只會讓菲律賓人又多了一個文化迷戀，老實說，這也能理解（甚至可能已經是遲來的現象），因為有許多韓國人來到菲律賓學習英語，甚至在商業(yè)領域中取得成功。

Julius Rockefeller Rosenberg Ackermann
Koreans are one of the most popular tourists in PH. Personally, I do not like Koreans. I do not like their bullying attitude towards everyone (but this attitude is common from those coming from developed countries), and I do not look up to them, when it comes to disliking Filipinos, I must say, I understand their reason and I'm with them on that one.

所以，不，韓國文化影響的涌入不會帶來太大的改變，只會讓菲律賓人又多了一個文化迷戀，老實說，這也能理解（甚至可能已經是遲來的現象），因為有許多韓國人來到菲律賓學習英語，甚至在商業(yè)領域中取得成功。

Lola
It is not right to say all Filipinos, maybe some youngsters, teenagers who are carefree, who likes dancing and tinted hairstyle likes them
Mostly are not . Like me, I don’t liked them the way they look down on us but , I understand those koreans who are acting like that , because you cannot pleased everybody. Everyone in every nationalities in every country

韓國人是菲律賓最受歡迎的游客之一。就個人而言，我不喜歡韓國人。我不喜歡他們對待每個人的霸凌態(tài)度（但這種態(tài)度在那些來自發(fā)達國家的人中很常見），而且我也不崇拜他們。當談到不喜歡菲律賓人時，我必須說，我理解他們的理由，而且我在這一點上支持他們。
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There are people who always think that they are better than others. They feel like they are flawless in all aspects of their selves, yes maybe in their outward appearance they’re flawless due to surgery and many creams
But in their inward appearance are not and behavior which are the most important are not seen in them

說所有菲律賓人都不喜歡韓國人是不對的，也許有些年輕人、喜歡跳舞和染發(fā)的青少年喜歡他們，但大多數人并不喜歡。像我，我不喜歡他們看不起我們，但我理解那些這樣做的韓國人，因為你不能取悅每一個人。每個國家的每個民族中，總有一些人覺得自己比別人更優(yōu)秀。他們覺得自己在各方面都是完美無缺的，是的，也許他們在外貌上因為整容和很多護膚品顯得完美，但他們內在的品質和行為才是最重要的，而這些在他們身上并沒有體現出來。

Leoben DsFrendz
Who told you Filipinos look up to Koreans so highly despite the discrimination? Your question is rude, misleading, insulting, demeaning and very condescending and has no basis. You probably are talking about Filipinos admiring your Kpop groupband but I dont know of the discrimination. If youre talking about Korean owners of businesses, then employees would suckup to any a.h.owner to holdon to the job to make ends meet bec of severe economic hardships….

是誰告訴你菲律賓人如此崇拜韓國人，盡管有歧視？你的問題很無禮、誤導、侮辱性、貶低，且毫無根據。你可能是在說菲律賓人崇拜你的Kpop團體，但我并不知道有關歧視的情況。如果你是在說韓國的商家老板，那員工為了維持生計會迎合老板的要求，畢竟經濟困境十分嚴重……

Kristina Catalan
I like to think that *some* Filipinos may do so because Filipinos collectively are still working out the best way to monetise their/our cultural assets without sacrificing/driving families apart or mental well-being into the ground. Koreans are entertaining and good at monetising their labour and culture as Asians, but at a huge personal price with their suicide rate and low birthrates.

我喜歡認為一些菲律賓人可能會這樣做，因為菲律賓人整體上仍在努力找到最好的方式來將我們的文化資產變現，而不會犧牲或壓垮家庭或心理健康。韓國人擅長娛樂和將勞動力與文化進行變現，但付出了巨大的個人代價，他們的自殺率和低出生率也正是如此。

Filipinos are tough - being discriminated against isn't new to Filipinos having endured it from Spaniards for 300years and Americans etc as cheap labour and women.

菲律賓人很堅韌——被歧視對我們來說并不新鮮，菲律賓人曾經在西班牙人統(tǒng)治下遭受了300年的壓迫，還有美國人等，把我們當作廉價勞動力和女性。

As a Filipina-Australian I actually am more impressed with India - in a few decades the Indians are projected to be 1/5th of the entire planets working age population, their economy is growing and modernising while everyone is ageing. International populations are being subtly indianized peacefully (again). Even their former coloniser the British Empire, now the UK, has a prime minister of Indian heritage.
Its more fascinating to track the larger ripples in the scheme of history, than these blips of petty racism between countries.

作為一名菲律賓裔澳大利亞人，我實際上更佩服印度——在未來幾十年內，印度的工作年齡人口預計將占全球的五分之一，他們的經濟在增長并現代化，而其他國家都在老齡化。國際人口正在悄然“印度化”——而且是和平地。即使是他們的前殖民者——英國，現在的英國首相也是印度裔。
與其關注這些國家之間的小規(guī)模種族主義，不如追蹤歷史進程中的更大波動更具趣味性。

Ia
Because they are really cute. Like Japanese/Chinese. Also, their stuff is really popular in the Philippines. (I really like the Cute Yellow Women)
Unlike Foreigners who aren't East and Southeast Asian who only come to the Philippines to be perverts, criminals, and terrorists.

因為他們真的很可愛。就像日本人/中國人一樣。還有，他們的東西在菲律賓很受歡迎。（我真的很喜歡那些可愛的黃種女孩）
不像其他外國人，那些不是東亞和東南亞的人，他們來菲律賓只是為了當變態(tài)、罪犯和恐怖分子。
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Don Wynn
It has to do with the height. Koreans average height is 172 cm while Pinoys height is way below at about 167 cm. Pinoys look up while Koreans look down.

這和身高有關。韓國人的平均身高是172厘米，而菲律賓人的身高則明顯較矮，大約是167厘米。菲律賓人仰視，而韓國人俯視。

Charissa G.
Because of their talent and how much hard work and dedication they put into their craft.

因為他們的天賦，以及他們?yōu)樽约旱氖炙嚫冻龅呐头瞰I。

Arv Os
Most of these are younger generations into the Kpop crap. They will only realize the reality upon landing a job working in South Korea as a factory worker. My cousin used to be into so much Kdrama, all that changed after she went to Canada and got Korean roommates. They were nasty according to her.

這些大多數是年輕一代喜歡Kpop的。只有當他們成為韓國工廠工人時，才會意識到現實。我表妹曾經非常迷戀韓劇，但她去加拿大后，和一些韓國室友住在一起，所有這一切都改變了。她說那些韓國人很臟。
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Nitrowonders
Do Filipinos think highly of Koreans?
I’ve worked with a few here in S Korea and all of them told me they admire our growth along with our resilience to Japan most of all. They feel their government didn’t ever fight or demand anything from Japan when they tried to rule the world. I know Filipinos from the states to be super friendly and easy going. One of my best friends is Filipino. It’s not so much that they think highly of us, but more of that they want their country to develop more too. There’s a few Koreans married to Filipinos in every city and they always seem happy.

菲律賓人認為韓國人很了不起嗎？
我在韓國工作過幾個菲律賓人，他們告訴我，他們欣賞我們的成長和我們在面對日本時的韌性，最重要的是。他們覺得他們的政府從未與日本抗爭或要求什么，當日本試圖統(tǒng)治世界時。我認識的菲律賓人都非常友好、隨和。我的一個最好的朋友就是菲律賓人。并不是說他們特別崇拜我們，而是他們希望自己的國家也能得到更多的發(fā)展。在每個城市都有一些韓國人與菲律賓人結婚，他們似乎都很幸福。

Layla May
Yes. Don’t be deluded by possible answers you might receive in the future, saying if racism in Korea is that bad, there wouldn’t be many foreigners working in Korea.

是的。不要被未來可能收到的回答所迷惑，如果韓國的種族主義如此嚴重，那就不會有那么多外國人在韓國工作了。

If that’s the case, then any country can justify any mistreatment towards other races by claiming there are foreign workers in their country. Basically, “why would they come here if it’s so bad?”. On a smaller scale, companies can also justify mistreatment towards employees, “If the overtime etc is so bad, why would they work here?”. Maybe that’s the justification used by employers in Korea and Japan so they end up overworking too much.

如果是這樣的話，那么任何國家都可以通過聲稱有外國工人來為對其他種族的虐待辯解?；旧?，“如果這里這么糟糕，為什么他們還會來？”在更小的范圍內，公司也可以通過類似的理由為對員工的虐待辯解，“如果加班這么糟糕，為什么還會有人在這里工作？”也許這就是韓國和日本的雇主用來合理化過度加班的理由。

But you know that people are willing to tolerate hardship for many reasons, such as better salary etc.
Korea is one of the most racist countries, and you have probably heard of that before. Or maybe you have heard of tourists describing Koreans as “cold and distant”. Well, the “cold and distant” is basically euphemism for “arrogant and racist” to many people.

但是你知道，人們愿意為了很多原因忍受困苦，比如更高的薪水等等。
韓國是世界上最種族主義的國家之一，你可能以前聽過這個?；蛘吣憧赡苈犝f過游客形容韓國人“冷漠和疏遠”。嗯，“冷漠和疏遠”基本上是“傲慢和種族主義”的委婉說法。

I’m Asian (my race and country are confidential on Quora for various reasons) and I have been to many SEA countries and Japan as a tourist, and the people didn’t look down on me as they were warm and friendly. Korea was a different story. I received bitchy stares and rude treatment. They stared at me like I was a lower class being. Of course not every Korean is like this, but the number of Koreans doing this is shocking and far exceeds other countries like SEA and Japan. The backwardness is akin to 1950’s or older.

我來自亞洲（我的種族和國家因某些原因在Quora上是保密的），并且曾作為游客去過許多東南亞國家和日本，那里的人民對我沒有任何輕視，他們很溫暖、友好。而韓國則是另一回事。我收到了厭惡的目光和粗魯的對待。他們盯著我看，就像我只是低等的存在。當然，并不是每個韓國人都這樣，但這么做的韓國人數量之多，令人震驚，遠遠超過其他東南亞國家和日本。那種倒退的情況就像是上世紀50年代或更早。

Just think about it. Korean society is known to be highly competitive and harshly judgemental of others’ appearance that even good looks becomes a criteria when it comes to hiring. If people are trained to be harshly judgemental of others’ appearance in such a highly competitive environment, then more likely they would discriminate against other races who look different and don’t meet their beauty standard. It’s a natural consequence.

想想看，韓國社會以高度競爭和嚴苛評價他人外貌而聞名，甚至長相好看都成為了招聘的標準之一。如果人們被培養(yǎng)得如此嚴苛地評判他人的外貌，在這樣一個高度競爭的環(huán)境中，他們更可能歧視那些看起來不同、無法符合他們的審美標準的其他種族。這是一個自然的結果。

The tourist hierarchy in Korea:
White people
East Asians
Austronesians such as South East Asians
Black people and other dark-skinned people
If you are very beautiful, then maybe you can beat the hierarchy.

韓國的游客等級制度：
白人
東亞人
南島人，如東南亞人
黑人和其他深膚色的人
如果你非常美麗，也許可以打破這個等級制度。
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Rod Michael Perez
Filipinos, like any other country, will be fascinated by whatever is currently “trending”. A decade earlier, we were fascinated by localized anime and Mexican telenovelas. Marimar/Thalia was a local heroine for a few years, maybe even more popular than the PH president during her time.
At the moment, the rise of global Korean popularity is more marked in the Philippines, because when Filipinos become fans, they fanboy/girl so hard that if anyone besmirched their current idols, keyboard wars ensue.

菲律賓人和其他國家的人一樣，會對當前 "流行 "的東西著迷。十年前，我們對本土化動漫和墨西哥電視連續(xù)劇著迷?，旣惉?塔莉婭曾在幾年時間里成為當地的女英雄，在她的時代，她甚至可能比菲律賓總統(tǒng)更受歡迎。
目前，韓國在全球的人氣上升在菲律賓更為明顯，因為當菲律賓人成為粉絲時，他們會瘋狂地追星/追女孩，如果有人污蔑他們現在的偶像，鍵盤大戰(zhàn)就會接踵而至。

One thing I did notice about Korean culture is that it is quite close to Filipino culture, which is why most pinoys are drawn to it like bees to honey.
Koreanovelas are usually funny/tragic/dramatic love stories which pinoys enjoy so much. Koreans are depicted as close to family with a deep respect for their elders which is very much like our own culture.

我注意到韓國文化的一點是，它與菲律賓文化非常接近，這就是為什么大多數菲律賓人會像蜜蜂采蜜一樣被韓國文化所吸引。
韓劇通常都是搞笑/悲劇/戲劇性的愛情故事，菲律賓人非常喜歡。韓國人被描繪成與家人親密無間、對長輩尊敬有加的人，這與我們的文化非常相似。

Koreans also have this dewy-white complexion which is very attractive to Filipinos who, although are mostly brown, seem to lean towards the western standards of beauty white = pretty. Glutathione soaps, pills, and other whitening products sell like hotcakes over here for both men and women.
Korean food is also interesting because it’s full of intense flavors like spicy, sweet, salty, and sour all at the same time which is also common in most Filipino food.
Let’s wait this decade out. I’m pretty sure we’ll move on to something new soon enough :)

韓國人的膚色也是白里透紅，這對菲律賓人來說非常有吸引力，因為菲律賓人雖然大多是棕色人種，但似乎更傾向于西方的 “白=美 ”標準。谷胱甘肽肥皂、藥片和其他美白產品在這里銷售火爆，男女都適用。
韓國食物也很有趣，因為它同時充滿了辣、甜、咸、酸等強烈的味道，這在大多數菲律賓食物中也很常見。
讓我們等待這十年的到來吧。我敢肯定，我們很快就會轉向新的事物：)

Rod Michael Perez
Why are Filipinos so fascinated with Koreans?
Filipinos, like any other country, will be fascinated by whatever is currently “trending”. A decade earlier, we were fascinated by localized anime and Mexican telenovelas. Marimar/Thalia was a local heroine for a few years, maybe even more popular than the PH president during her time.

菲律賓人為何對韓國人如此著迷？
菲律賓人和其他國家的人一樣，會對當前 “流行 ”的東西著迷。十年前，我們對本土化的動漫和墨西哥電視連續(xù)劇著迷?，旣惉?塔莉婭曾在幾年內成為當地的女英雄，在她的時代，她甚至可能比菲律賓總統(tǒng)更受歡迎。

At the moment, the rise of global Korean popularity is more marked in the Philippines, because when Filipinos become fans, they fanboy/girl so hard that if anyone besmirched their current idols, keyboard wars ensue.
One thing I did notice about Korean culture is that it is quite close to Filipino culture, which is why most pinoys are drawn to it like bees to honey.

目前，韓國在全球的人氣上升在菲律賓更為明顯，因為當菲律賓人成為粉絲時，他們會瘋狂地追星/追女孩，如果有人污蔑他們現在的偶像，鍵盤大戰(zhàn)就會接踵而至。
我注意到韓國文化有一點與菲律賓文化非常接近，這就是為什么大多數菲律賓人會像蜜蜂采蜜一樣被韓國文化所吸引。

Koreanovelas are usually funny/tragic/dramatic love stories which pinoys enjoy so much. Koreans are depicted as close to family with a deep respect for their elders which is very much like our own culture.
Koreans also have this dewy-white complexion which is very attractive to Filipinos who, although are mostly brown, seem to lean towards the western standards of beauty white = pretty. Glutathione soaps, pills, and other whitening products sell like hotcakes over here for both men and women.

韓劇通常都是搞笑/悲劇/戲劇性的愛情故事，而這正是菲律賓人非常喜歡的。韓國人被描繪成與家人親密無間、對長輩尊敬有加的人，這與我們的文化非常相似。
韓國人的膚色也是白里透紅，這對菲律賓人來說非常有吸引力，因為菲律賓人雖然大多是棕色人種，但似乎更傾向于西方的 “白=美 ”標準。谷胱甘肽肥皂、藥片和其他美白產品在這里銷售火爆，男女都適用。
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Korean food is also interesting because it’s full of intense flavors like spicy, sweet, salty, and sour all at the same time which is also common in most Filipino food.
Let’s wait this decade out. I’m pretty sure we’ll move on to something new soon enough :)

韓國食物也很有趣，因為它同時充滿了辣、甜、咸、酸等強烈的味道，這在大多數菲律賓食物中也很常見。
讓我們等待這十年的到來吧。我敢肯定，我們很快就會轉向新的事物：)

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