H-1B 簽證爭論：外國工人是否搶走了美國科技行業(yè)的工作？
H-1B Visa Debate: Are Foreign Workers Taking American Tech Jobs?
譯文簡介
美國對技術(shù)工人的需求日益增長，尤其是在 STEM 領(lǐng)域，到 2033 年需要增加 100 萬名 STEM 工人。
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美國在科技領(lǐng)域?qū)夹g(shù)工人的需求日益增長，尤其是在科學(xué)、技術(shù)、工程和數(shù)學(xué)（STEM）領(lǐng)域。為了應(yīng)對這一技能缺口，美國自1990年設(shè)立了H-1B簽證計(jì)劃，允許企業(yè)臨時(shí)雇傭外籍專業(yè)技術(shù)人才。每年約有65,000個(gè)簽證名額，其中一些名額專門為持有美國高等學(xué)歷的外國人才設(shè)立。盡管有些公司為避免簽證限制而嘗試?yán)眠@一計(jì)劃引進(jìn)勞動(dòng)力，但這一政策也引發(fā)了爭議。
支持者認(rèn)為，H-1B簽證幫助填補(bǔ)了美國勞動(dòng)力市場的空白，促進(jìn)了創(chuàng)新并創(chuàng)造了更多的就業(yè)機(jī)會(huì)。然而批評者指出，這一計(jì)劃讓一些企業(yè)得以雇傭較低薪酬的外籍工人，進(jìn)而壓低了美國本土工人的薪資水平，甚至導(dǎo)致一些技術(shù)職位被外籍工人替代。技術(shù)公司對于海外高技能勞動(dòng)力的依賴，使得這一問題更加復(fù)雜。雖然美國本土也有一些技術(shù)人員面臨裁員或失業(yè)，但這些公司依然繼續(xù)通過H-1B簽證吸引外籍員工，本土工人的就業(yè)機(jī)會(huì)受到影響。
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H1b especially bring workers from tier 3 universities from especially india. Who could barely speak english.
Is causing major problems for domestic grads.
Companies like slaves they get happy slaves from third world.
International students studying at our top universities who have american education, english test, donot get job either.
H1b hurts american students aswell as international students who invest good money at best us university and are actually highly qualified. Loose to h1b slaves.
H1B簽證引進(jìn)來的印度三流大學(xué)那些工人，連英語都說不利索，結(jié)果給本土畢業(yè)生造成更大麻煩。公司反倒像奴隸主從第三世界找到了快樂的奴隸似的。那些在美國頂尖大學(xué)讀書、接受美式教育、通過英語考試的國際生也找不到工作。H1B既傷害了美國學(xué)生，也傷害了真正優(yōu)秀、花大錢讀名校的國際生——他們居然輸給這群“H1B奴隸”。
The root cause of this problem is that US government does not fund public education and defunded workforce training programs to reduce H-1B Visas taking STEM jobs.
根本原因是美國政府不投資公共教育，還削減職業(yè)培訓(xùn)項(xiàng)目，結(jié)果STEM崗位反而被H-1B簽證持有者占據(jù)。
Lottery to pick engineers ? And they call it the best STEM workers ? Elon shud chk this out. It’s a complete joke.
用抽簽選工程師？還號(hào)稱是頂尖STEM人才？馬斯克真該查查這事，簡直是個(gè)笑話。
USA should give scholarships for the USA citizens not giving opportunities to come USA by getting H1B visas.
H1B visas are scammed by Indians, more than 70 percent H1B occupants from India.
Government should put embargo against H1B
美國應(yīng)該給本國公民發(fā)獎(jiǎng)學(xué)金，而不是通過H1B簽證給外國人機(jī)會(huì)。H1B已經(jīng)被印度人鉆了空子，七成以上持有者來自印度，政府應(yīng)該設(shè)限
USA is the most strange country in the world where president fired his own people from the government jobs and hiring people from India by H1B visas and accolade them in his own country
美國真是奇葩國家：總統(tǒng)一邊解雇政府崗位上的本國人，一邊用H1B簽證招印度人，還在國內(nèi)吹捧他們。
it doesn't matter whether or not it's true or not. No american company hires a foreign employee any more.
真假根本不重要，反正現(xiàn)在沒有美國公司會(huì)招外國員工了。
Some of those tech workers could probably do their job remotely from their home country so they don't have to worry about a visa.
有些技術(shù)崗明明可以在自己本國遠(yuǎn)程辦公，這些人根本不需要操心簽證問題。
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If they want cheaper workers, they will just hire their tech teams in India. They also do this already.
想要廉價(jià)勞動(dòng)力？直接去印度組技術(shù)團(tuán)隊(duì)就行了，而且他們早就這么干了。
There is no need for H1B, American companies have gotten even cheaper and just hire consultants directly from India now. Pay them 1/10th of the salary with no benefits. It is a win for American corporations and a loss for Americans.
H1B根本沒必要，美國公司現(xiàn)在更摳門了，直接雇印度外包顧問，工資給1/10還不發(fā)福利。企業(yè)賺翻了，美國人虧慘了。
What happened to the free market? Only preach when it benefits them?
自由市場哪兒去了？怎么只有對自己有利時(shí)才高談闊論？
Poorly researched piece focusing on 65,000 visas when 10 million illegals were allowed into the country over the last four years. H1B workers earn on average 120 to 130k, pay the highest taxes, contribute most to the economy due to their spending power, commit no crimes, function as model citizens and we still see fingers pointed at them. It can be argued that mediocre and low IQ average Americans cannot compete intellectually with these skilled workers and are often jealous of their finances, quality of life, and the manner in which they lead their lives - quiet, focused, non confrontational, and goal oriented.
這篇報(bào)道研究太差勁：揪著6.5萬簽證說事，卻對過去四年放進(jìn)來的1000萬非法移民視而不見。H1B工作者平均年薪12-13萬，繳稅最多，消費(fèi)力強(qiáng)且推動(dòng)經(jīng)濟(jì)，不犯罪、做模范公民，結(jié)果還被指責(zé)。要我說，那些平庸低智的美國人就是競爭不過這些技術(shù)人才，還嫉妒他們的收入、生活質(zhì)量，以及專注、低調(diào)、目標(biāo)明確的生活方式。
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Indians make up the majority of H-1B visa approvals, but I doubt most of them are truly the best and brightest. If that were the case, India would be the most technologically advanced country in the world—but it’s not. Instead, Indian managers tend to favor hiring fellow Indians and keeping them under control, something they can’t easily do with equally skilled American STEM professionals.
印度人占H-1B簽證大頭，但我不信他們真是最頂尖的，否則印度早該是全球科技第一強(qiáng)國了。真相是印度經(jīng)理愛招同胞搞小圈子，方便控制，而同樣水平的美國STEM人才可不會(huì)任人擺布。
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The outsourcing part for cheaper labor in the U.S is not true. H1-B visa holder must be paid an equivalent salary to a U.S citizen. This is part of the law. I am one H1-B visa holder myself and the only thing that I would say is that being a foreigner in the US is not easy. People talk about the unfairness of hiring foreigner workers and how that takes away opportunities from American citizens. I am sorry, but that is just a propaganda. My American colleagues from college did not have to face any of the challenges that I had to find a job because of their American privilege. It took me a exponentially higher effort to get hired when compared to my American colleagues. So, to clarify, getting hired as an H1-B is not a low hanging fruit, but rather very hard work with an expiration date.
說H1B是為廉價(jià)勞動(dòng)力根本是謠言。按法律規(guī)定，H1B持有者必須和美國人同工同酬。我自己就是H1B，只能說在美當(dāng)外國人太難了，總有人說雇傭外國人搶了美國人機(jī)會(huì)，但這都是宣傳話術(shù)。我的美國同學(xué)求職時(shí)根本不用經(jīng)歷我的困境，他們有國籍特權(quán)，我比他們多花數(shù)倍努力才能找到工作。因此，需要澄清的是，獲得H1-B工作簽證并非易事，而是一份需要付出巨大努力且存在有效期限的工作。
My cousin graduated from Mercer University as a Software Engineer and tried to applied to a company but they said they were only hiring Georgia tech graduates & H-1B visa holders. Imagine all the time, money, stress & effort and they’re just gonna hand those jobs to foreigners. Glad I never went college.
我表弟從Mercer大學(xué)軟件工程專業(yè)畢業(yè)，去某公司應(yīng)聘，結(jié)果人家說只招佐治亞理工畢業(yè)生和H1B簽證持有者。想想他投入的時(shí)間、金錢和精力，最后工作卻拱手讓給外國人。還好我沒上大學(xué)。
You should not report on a topic without proper facts. Recruitment at Amazon Meta Google Microsoft or any major tech is an elaborate process and people who can scale that are made an offer. The job offer is made as a last step with some room for salary negotiations. You are made an offer for a level which has a company defined pay range. Now if that person happens to be on H1 then how is the big tech hiring them for cheap ? On top of that, companies have to pay of their immigration process as well. Elon Musk is absolutely right about tech graduate shortages. Students show focus more on STEM and that culture needs to start at a young age. The consulting companies actually abuse the H1B visas.
報(bào)道前先查證事實(shí)行嗎？亞馬遜、Meta、谷歌、微軟等大廠的招聘流程極其嚴(yán)格，能過關(guān)的都是精英。薪資談判是最后一步，也是（符合）公司設(shè)定的相應(yīng)薪酬區(qū)間。如果某人恰好是H1B，大廠怎么可能低價(jià)雇他們？更別提公司還要承擔(dān)移民手續(xù)費(fèi)用。馬斯克說技術(shù)人才短缺是絕對正確的，學(xué)生應(yīng)更早重視STEM教育。真正濫用H1B的是那些咨詢公司。
Plenty of Americans without jobs. Time to put a country cap on it. Almost 80% of H1B goes to Indians.
那么多美國人失業(yè)，該給H1B設(shè)國別限額了，近80%的簽證都給了印度人。
I wish there was a work incentive system in the United States.
真希望美國能建立一套工作激勵(lì)機(jī)制。
You guys know that China has been using Ai in Everyday, Industrial and Medical segments for the last 5 years. DeepSeek is only new to The West. China is far ahead in Ai than the USA. China is actively recruiting worldwide for the best of the best. And the USA seems to be on a Bobsled to the bottom. Worried some person from a "FOREIGN LAND" is going of take a job. Poor education system makes poor decision makers. China is using Ai to deal with doctor shortages. A huge hospital in Shanghai treated 860,00 ill patients with 133 doctors. And the doctors worked less than they did before Ai. Digest that.
各位知道嗎？中國過去五年已經(jīng)在民生、工業(yè)和醫(yī)療領(lǐng)域應(yīng)用AI了，DeepSeek只是西方剛接觸的東西，而中國在AI領(lǐng)域已遠(yuǎn)超美國。中國正全球招募頂尖人才，而美國卻像坐雪橇般急速下滑，還在擔(dān)心“外國人”會(huì)搶走工作崗位呢，真是糟糕的教育體系才培養(yǎng)出糟糕的決策者。中國用AI應(yīng)對醫(yī)生短缺，上海某大醫(yī)院靠133名醫(yī)生治療了86萬病患，且醫(yī)生的工作量比用AI前更少。好好想想吧。
What the point is they also said A.I will replace engineers?
關(guān)鍵是他們之前還說AI會(huì)取代工程師呢？
The issue is IT consulting and not the big tech companies. I have quite a few friends who studied in the US and then got picked up on H1B
They’re paid the same wages - they worked harder, got the better grades, and internships.
問題出在IT咨詢公司而非科技巨頭。我有不少朋友在美國讀書后拿著H1B入職，他們和美國人同工同酬，但更努力、成績更好、實(shí)習(xí)更拼。
Whites are so complacent and increasingly becoming mediocre and incompetent that we have to rely on foreign talents because they are now becoming the next inferior race.
白人太自滿了而且越來越平庸無能，只能依賴外國人才——現(xiàn)在他們自己倒成了劣等種族。
To much H1B visa bad for Usa, India etc. We face brain drain while you face to much inflow. Both need to stop. Many Indian student spending fortune some of money on American degree , with that amount they can start their business here. To much wrong priorities
H1B泛濫對美印都是壞事。我們遭遇人才外流，你們面對過量涌入，兩邊都該停手。許多印度學(xué)生砸錢拿美國學(xué)位，其實(shí)這筆錢足夠在印度創(chuàng)業(yè)了，優(yōu)先順序完全搞反了。
Unemployed Senior Software Engineer (USA) Here. H1-B Visas absolutely negatively affect me and my career.
我是美國資深軟件工程師，目前失業(yè)中。H1B簽證絕對損害了我的職業(yè)發(fā)展。
People are being laid off in tech job - the number of unemployed in tech job is really high- this program needs to stop.
科技行業(yè)裁員潮下失業(yè)者眾多，這項(xiàng)目必須叫停。
The Visa process sucks. Hiring immigrants is confusing and I wish it was streamlined.
簽證流程爛透了，雇傭移民也搞得人暈頭轉(zhuǎn)向，真該簡化。
Foreign workers have been taking American jobs for decades. Is this really a question? Companies can get foreigners cheaper so they get them and save the money.
外國人搶美國人飯碗都幾十年了，這還用問？公司能低價(jià)雇外國人，自然樂得省錢。
H1-B visa holders that were hired actually got higher pay and positions than the locals who have equal or better qualifications in order to boost visa holders’ credentials. Isn’t offshoring enough to “save money”? Why do you need to bring them in and pay them more than the locals?
有些H1B持有者的薪資職位反而高于同等或更優(yōu)秀的本地人，就為鍍金他們的資歷。外包還不夠“省錢”嗎？何必高薪引進(jìn)外國人？
It's funny because what the world sees is the u.s. hoarding all the talent, quite a different take
可笑的是，全世界看到的是美國在囤積人才——和這個(gè)說法截然相反啊。
Americans have no such brains talents intelligence STEM skills expertise and technology like Indians to do tech jobs . thatswhy Aamerica is hiring lakhs of Indian techies every year to do jobs in America .
美國人根本沒印度人那種腦子、天賦和科技技能來做技術(shù)崗，所以美國每年要招幾十萬印度碼農(nóng)來干活。
Years of not funding education for citizens has finally come to roost
多年不投資公民教育，現(xiàn)在報(bào)應(yīng)來了。
Why do we need to understand though? Understand 200k Einstein in US that can come only from India. It will less headache for all if fewer and truly exceptional people come.
有什么好理解的？要明白美國需要的20萬“愛因斯坦”只能從印度來。少招點(diǎn)人，只引進(jìn)真正頂尖的，大家就都省心了。
I still don't understand when H1Bs are like 0.2% of USA population, how can 0.2% people are a creating a job loss for 99.8% people and that too this 0.2% can only work on STEM by law..
我不明白：H1B只占美國人口0.2%，這0.2%的人怎么就能讓99.8%的人丟飯碗？而且按法律他們只能做STEM崗位啊。
We need skilled workers to keep up with tech advancements!
我們需要技術(shù)工人來跟上科技發(fā)展！
The thing is... if you really want to reduce the H1b influence, Americans should endorse STEM fields at a blistering pace, like with a do or die attitude, and be flexible in early career.
關(guān)鍵是...真想削弱H1B影響，美國人就該以破釜沉舟的態(tài)度擁抱STEM領(lǐng)域，并在職業(yè)初期保持靈活。
I was an H-1B employee at Amazon U.S., and I’d like to address a couple of misconceptions:
The idea that H-1B employees are cheap labor is simply not true for companies. In fact, hiring immigrants can be more expensive due to visa transfer, extensions, and compliance costs.
USCIS required additional documentation to verify that I was the right fit for my role at Amazon. This highlights that the government actively reviews applicants' backgrounds, education, and work experience before approving a visa.
During Amazon’s 2022 layoffs, the company paused Green Card sponsorships. As my H-1B period ended, I moved to Canada.
These points illustrate that companies like Amazon follow ethical hiring practices, and the government also applies strict scrutiny before approving foreign worker petitions to protect local interests.
That said, no system is perfect—there can be instances of misuse, just like in any other program. But the key is to continuously improve the system to make it better and fairer for everyone.
我曾是亞馬遜美國的H1B員工，想澄清幾個(gè)誤解：
說H1B是廉價(jià)勞動(dòng)力完全不成立，實(shí)際上雇移民更貴，因?yàn)樯婕昂炞C轉(zhuǎn)移、延期和合規(guī)成本。
移民局要求我額外提交材料證明勝任亞馬遜崗位，這說明政府批簽證前會(huì)嚴(yán)格審查申請者背景、教育和經(jīng)歷。
亞馬遜2022年裁員時(shí)暫停綠卡贊助，我的H1B到期后只能搬去加拿大。
這證明亞馬遜等公司遵循道德招聘，政府也為保護(hù)本地利益嚴(yán)格審核。當(dāng)然系統(tǒng)不完美，可能有濫用現(xiàn)象，但關(guān)鍵是持續(xù)改進(jìn)，讓所有人更公平。
Immigration that is used to exploit labor should be illegal. If there's a labor shortage, then offer free college tuition for STEM jobs. Don't force people into massive debt just to get a degree that doesn’t pay well.
利用移民制度剝削勞工的行為早該被取締。真要解決用工荒，就該給STEM專業(yè)提供免費(fèi)大學(xué)教育，而不是逼著年輕人背上巨額貸款拿個(gè)根本不值錢的學(xué)位。
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What I find amusing is that so many people claim the US tech worker is lazy and unproductive. Yet the truth is, when software projects have been outsourced to teams overseas with three times the number of engineers for the same cumulative pay, the outsourced project falls apart and in a very large percentage of cases must be brought back on-shore to prevent the product from losing the market. Even when compared at a ratio of 3 to 1, US software engineers still out-produce foreign software engineers.
最可笑的是總有人唱衰美國程序員又懶又低效，但事實(shí)擺在眼前：企業(yè)花同樣的錢外包給三倍人數(shù)的海外團(tuán)隊(duì)，結(jié)果項(xiàng)目爛尾，最后不得不重新拉回本土搶救市場。就算按3:1的人數(shù)比例，美國程序員的產(chǎn)出照樣碾壓海外同行。
I’ve been hiring in tech for a long time. There are literally entire ecosystems to cover up the H1B fraud. Ever dealt with proxy interviewing (one guy interviews..a completely different guy shows up)? Proxy workers (one guy sits here…another guy remotes in and does his work)? Resumes that are literally MADE UP by the company (last one I remember personally seeing is Cognizant)? It is like an epidemic in India.
我在科技行業(yè)做招聘多年，整個(gè)印度簡直形成了掩蓋H1B欺詐的產(chǎn)業(yè)鏈。你遇見過替身面試嗎？就是面試時(shí)來的是A，入職后變成B。還有遠(yuǎn)程替工，工位上坐的是張三，實(shí)際干活的是李四。更別說科聯(lián)這種公司直接偽造簡歷的騷操作了，這些造假行為在印度已成流行病。
They aren't going only into Tech. They are doing blue collar jobs too.
別以為他們只搶科技崗，藍(lán)領(lǐng)工作也被占了。
I think the problem is that we have too many, we can still have them where we need them but not to the same level
問題出在數(shù)量失控，該保留的崗位保留，但別像現(xiàn)在這樣泛濫成災(zāi)。
One aspect they forget to mention is, during the application for a H1-B Visa, the employer must prove that the labor wages is fair or comparable to the wages in the state for that same position which has to be approved by the state labor bureau.
他們漏說了一個(gè)關(guān)鍵點(diǎn)：申請H1B時(shí)，雇主必須向州勞工局證明該崗位薪資符合當(dāng)?shù)赝嚷毼粯?biāo)準(zhǔn)。
First, it's illegal immigrant, then legal immigrant, people of LGBTAQ+, people of color, and then women. Just so you wait for it.
先是打擊非法移民，接著拿合法移民開刀，然后是LGBTQ群體、有色人種，最后輪到女性。這套路等著瞧吧。
H-1B visas should be reserved for highly talented workers. I don’t believe they should be used to replace jobs that only require basic SQL or other common software skills.
H1B應(yīng)該留給真正的高端人才，而不是用來取代那些只需要基礎(chǔ)SQL技能的入門崗位?？粗笈绹就廉厴I(yè)生投了上萬份簡歷，結(jié)果連初級IT崗都被H1B搶走，實(shí)在心寒。更糟的是招聘來的同鄉(xiāng)抱團(tuán)，搞得美國員工在職場像局外人。
The projected shortage of skilled labor is ten times higher than the number of H-1B visas offered to industry. Academia is a different story...
行業(yè)需要的技術(shù)工人缺口比H1B配額高出十倍，學(xué)術(shù)界情況倒是另說...
The United States does need experience foreign workers. We do not need non-skilled workers
美國確實(shí)需要技術(shù)移民，但絕不應(yīng)該是低技能勞工。
Between all the big 5 listed on the graph that is 30,000 jobs that Americans are losing to foreigners that is 30,000 people whose living situation could be changed by getting one of those jobs and to everyone who says some of those jobs are lowing paying entry level jobs by giving the job to foreigners you have literally pushed Americans to the bottom of the ladder in terms of giving them upward mobility because those entry level jobs could help improve thier financial situation because even if you don't get promoted at the company you are with you could jump to another company and get a promotion once you get more experience
圖表里的五大公司就搶走3萬美國人的飯碗，這意味著3萬家庭失去改變生活的機(jī)會(huì)。那些說"這些只是低薪入門崗"的人根本不懂：正是這些初級崗位給了美國人向上流動(dòng)的階梯。即便在本公司沒升職，積累經(jīng)驗(yàn)后跳槽也能獲得晉升機(jī)會(huì)，現(xiàn)在連這個(gè)通道都被外國人堵死了。
There is no shortage of Engineers. What a lie!!
工程師根本不存在短缺，徹頭徹尾的謊言?。?
I'm one of those oddball H-1B visa holders not from India, China or any other country with high immigration to the US. But the thought that I "took" someone's job is just sad to me. I worked hard, gained experience in my field and applied for an internal transfer to the US. If I discover that I was hired just because I'm cheaper than an American... well.... that really is like getting slapped in the face. I work hard, and yes, I too am always scared that I could get fired and that I have to leave the country. But please, I have no intention of "taking" anybody's job. I just want to contribute to this amazing country and live my life in freedom.
作為非中印籍的少數(shù)H1B持有者，"搶飯碗"的說法讓我心寒。我憑實(shí)力積累經(jīng)驗(yàn)申請內(nèi)部調(diào)職，如果發(fā)現(xiàn)公司只是因?yàn)槲冶让绹吮阋瞬配浻茫钦媸钱?dāng)頭一棒。雖然整天擔(dān)心失業(yè)遣返，但我從沒想搶誰工作，只想為這個(gè)國度做些貢獻(xiàn)，自由地生活。
I think this video is very misleading. They did not give statistics on H1B that finished the degree in the United States, not hired directly from overseas. These people received the same education with US citizens and thus have the same salary expectation. The H1B was actually a "malicious yet clever" move of the U.S. to keep talented external people to stay committed to a specific company because under this visa, before getting the green card, you are not allowed to switch employers.
視頻誤導(dǎo)性太強(qiáng)，根本沒統(tǒng)計(jì)在美國完成學(xué)業(yè)的H1B。這些人和本土學(xué)生接受同樣教育，薪資要求相同。H1B本質(zhì)是美國用綠卡拴住人才的陰招——拿卡前不能跳槽，逼你死心塌地為東家賣命。
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YES and We are sick of it! How am I supposed to gain experience when all the low level IT positions are off shored. It's to the point where it is going to cause a national security problem because the government can't find qualified people for cyber security. Additionally, how in the world can I compete with someone who is willing to work for 1/4th of my pay. Globalism only benefits the corporations not the average person. No more offshoring jobs for customer service as well.
受夠了！初級IT崗全外包，我們怎么積累經(jīng)驗(yàn)？現(xiàn)在連政府都招不到合格的網(wǎng)絡(luò)安全員，遲早釀成國安危機(jī)。更別提和要價(jià)只有我1/4的人競爭。全球化只對企業(yè)有利，卻坑了百姓，客服外包也該叫停！
Yes, they are, you got PLENTY of VERY HIGHLY EDUCATED Americans, that can take these jobs, why import knowledge, when you already have it in America, NO SCHOOLS ARE BETTER, than in America, so... AMERICA FIRST, what Donald always says... And the weird thing is, especially under Joe and Obama, lot of Americans went abroad, who silly is that, when you can just stay HOME...
美國明明有大批高學(xué)歷人才，何必引進(jìn)？論教育質(zhì)量，哪國比得上美國？就該美國優(yōu)先！可氣的是奧巴馬和拜登任內(nèi)，那么多美國人還往外跑——有福不享非要出國，傻不傻？
Foreigner not taking any jobs from Americans because Americans themselves do not go to school.
外國人沒搶美國人飯碗，要怪就怪美國人不讀書。
H1B visas have been watering down salaries for American scientists and engineers for decades now. American scientists have not much competition versus many of these foreign H1B visa recipients. Some of the issues are in fields where chemistry, physics and engineers are mostly affected are due to these workers that come as students to the United States. Most American students get into student loan debt while foreign students are not allowed to borrow money so by the time an American kid comes out school, he or she might have $100,000 while the foreign student has none. While the market should be based by regions and not by taking the whole country as consideration (due low and high living cost areas differences) employers tend to use the whole country market already diluting salaries for all technical workers. Foreign students usually want to stay in the US for financial situations as they might go back to their countries of origin such and especially places like India, Pakistan, China and generally speaking mid and southeastern countries do not have as many technical jobs nor pay very well. So employers with this knowledge understand that sponsoring newly graduated in STEM fields from these other countries will take lesser salaries "with the same quality work" as an American worker. While the American technical worker could leave a job or position at will due to low pay, little to not benefits, foreign technical workers must be sponsored by their companies to stay in the US. Employers understanding these, will have lower paying employees for the same quality and will likely stay with the company much longer than fairly paying an American technical worker. This happens a lot in areas where high concentration of technical industries are located like Los Angeles ares or New York or Texas oil and gas industries. American technical workers move to other part of the country to find decent paying work while foreign technical workers are hired by companies with many subcontractors’ foreign technical workers where technology (intellectual property) is usually stolen and taken back to their countries of origin (if they get tired of living in the US). Case and point, the F-35 replica China builds for the Chinese air force or the continuos industrial espionage to steal new technologies away from the US. Such employers are short sided by the little money they are saving and not by the consequences of creating a strong foreign competitor in few years. As the salaries become lower and lower for American technical workers there is less incentive to study a career that will give you much financial benefit and that is why people like Elon Musk supposedly complains that not many Americans want to become scientists or engineers while is a big beneficiary of not hiring Americans. In few words, if you are an American technical worker applying for a job, your resume is going to the bottom list or not need to apply.
H1B數(shù)十年如一日地壓低美國科技人員薪資。本土科學(xué)家面對這些外來者毫無競爭力，尤其在化學(xué)、物理和工程領(lǐng)域。美國學(xué)生背著10萬學(xué)貸畢業(yè)時(shí)，外國留學(xué)生卻因無法貸款而零負(fù)債。企業(yè)利用全國薪資標(biāo)準(zhǔn)（無視地區(qū)生活成本差異）稀釋技術(shù)崗薪酬。來自中印巴等國的留學(xué)生為留美甘愿接受低薪，畢竟回國后既缺高薪崗又少技術(shù)崗。企業(yè)心知肚明：用同樣的錢雇外國人，既能壓價(jià)又能靠簽證拴住人——他們可比隨便跳槽的美國人"忠誠"多了。這種現(xiàn)象在洛杉磯、紐約、德州等技術(shù)產(chǎn)業(yè)密集區(qū)尤為嚴(yán)重，逼得本土人才外流。更糟的是，這些外籍員工常通過分包商Q取知識(shí)產(chǎn)權(quán)（比如中國仿制F35），企業(yè)為省小錢卻養(yǎng)虎為患。薪資持續(xù)走低導(dǎo)致美國年輕人不愿投身STEM，馬斯克之流一邊抱怨人才荒，一邊正是壓榨外籍勞工的既得利益者。簡言之，美國技術(shù)人才投簡歷時(shí)，你的資料早就被HR扔進(jìn)垃圾桶了。
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We need to put a smaller cap on h1-b visa and hire more American workers and unemployed students
該大幅縮減H1B名額，多招本土失業(yè)學(xué)生。
these are lies, I have been in the industry for 30 years and the h1b workers are not more skilled than locals, and there isn't a shortage, in fact, I know a lot of great American engineers who are out of work and can't find jobs, especially those over 50 as there is a huge amount of age discrimination and over 50 is your most experienced workforce. It only means one thing, companies want to find the cheapest labor possible, that's it.
全是謊言！從業(yè)30年從沒見過H1B比本地人強(qiáng)，更不存在人才荒。我認(rèn)識(shí)大批優(yōu)秀美國工程師失業(yè)，尤其是50歲以上遭遇年齡歧視的資深人才。企業(yè)就是圖便宜，沒別的。
For some reason don’t feel it. Companies keep laying off. Are companies hiring more? I havmt seen it?
完全沒感覺到用工荒，企業(yè)明明在裁員??？哪來的擴(kuò)招？
You name a technology and Indian applicant will have it on his resume
隨便說個(gè)技術(shù)，印度求職者簡歷上準(zhǔn)能看到。
If you stop contracting companies to sponsor H-1Visa most of the problems will be solved
禁止外包公司擔(dān)保H1B，問題解決大半。
Most of people say that they hire Indians to cut costs but this is not true because the average earning is these H1B visa holders are higher than average american. And most of these H1B visa holders waiting to get GC but the waiting period can go as high as 100 years, And These H1B visa holders are top 1% student of India most of them studied in IITs , NITs or top engineering colleges from country so no way they are less competitive than others , on top of that they are highly motivated because the amount of money they are making there is way higher that they can expect here so they are ready to work harder than their American peers , while many are also saying that if they are talented enough why they are coming here and not making startup like in their home country , because Indian market is still not developed like american market , many of these people who have managed to start their bussiness in US couldn't be able to start bussiness here not because they are not capable but because of government regulatory and ease of doing bussiness or infact people's perception and also US is a big market . While I don't want these highly skilled people to leave our country but as long as USD 1 = INR 85 remains outsourcing will keep happening , talented youth will keep leaving this country for better future . I don't think they deserved to being hated because they are ready to do job which american will not want to do .
說雇印度人為省錢是誤解——H1B平均薪資高于美國人。這些印度頂尖人才（多來自IIT、NIT等名校）等綠卡要等上百年。他們賺的錢遠(yuǎn)超印度本土，自然比美國同事拼命。有人問"這么牛為何不去印度創(chuàng)業(yè)"？因?yàn)橛《仁袌霾怀墒?、監(jiān)管嚴(yán)、民眾認(rèn)知差，而美國市場廣闊。雖然不愿意出現(xiàn)人才外流情況，但只要美元兌盧比維持高位，外包就不會(huì)停。他們甘愿做美國人不愿做的苦差，不該仇視他們。
Stop calling it “skill visa”. We all know is a cheap labor visa.
別美其名曰"技術(shù)簽證"，誰不知道是廉價(jià)勞工簽證。
A total of 440,000 H1B workers are in the US right now.
In a country of 340 million and a $ 30 trillion economy, if H1B is found responsible for unemployment, high costs.
It's nothing different from the propaganda against Jews being blamed by Hitler for all of Germany's ills.
目前美國共有44萬H1B工作者。在3.4億人口、30萬億美元經(jīng)濟(jì)體量的國家，如果將失業(yè)和高成本歸咎于H1B的話，這與希特勒將所有德國困境歸罪于猶太人的宣傳手段如出一轍。
America has China to worry about and if Americans can't understand that then they need some serious travelling to do , America needs foreign talent or else China is taking over
美國需要警惕中國的崛起，如果美國人無法理解這點(diǎn)就真該多出去看看世界。美國需要引入海外人才，否則將被中國全面趕超。
Alright... So American companies are taking that much of headache and paying thousands as legal and immigration fees just to save few bucks...right?
好吧...所以美國公司寧愿大費(fèi)周章支付成千上萬的律師費(fèi)和移民手續(xù)費(fèi)，就為了省點(diǎn)小錢？是這意思？
stop this fake H1b debate. The real issue is offshoring. But you don’t talk about that because big corporations will shut you down and you want to save just your job.
American employees are tutoring offshore developers on the job and this hurts American economy. Who is going to buy Ford or Tesla, with all these jobs gone?
別搞這些虛假的H1B辯論了，真正的問題是離岸外包，但你們閉口不談，因?yàn)榇笃髽I(yè)會(huì)讓你們閉嘴，而你們只想保住自己的飯碗。
美國員工正手把手地培訓(xùn)海外開發(fā)者，這種行為在損害美國經(jīng)濟(jì)，大家都沒工作了，誰還買得起福特或特斯拉？
Too many people from india working in us company's
在美國公司工作的印度人實(shí)在太多了
The ultimate mantra is "work hard and they won't bother you"..
終極生存法則是"努力工作就不會(huì)被找麻煩"
Only 2.5% of total graduates with computer science degree in USA are unemployed. They are just 60k. But, there nearly 1 million people working in IT who are on H1b/ L1/ EAD visa etc. How they can be replaced? 10 to 15% lower wages because of these programs are real. But, what is the solution? just hire low skilled/ unsuitable people to replace them? It will be a big mess in reality.
美國計(jì)算機(jī)專業(yè)畢業(yè)生失業(yè)率僅2.5%，約6萬人。但I(xiàn)T行業(yè)有近百萬H1B/L1/EAD等工作簽證持有者。怎么就替代他們了？這些簽證項(xiàng)目導(dǎo)致薪資降低10-15%是事實(shí)，但解決方案是什么？難道要雇傭低技能或不合適的人來做嗎？現(xiàn)實(shí)中只會(huì)亂套。
Short on skilled labor but at the same time gutting the Department of Education ...
一邊喊著技術(shù)工人短缺，一邊削減教育部預(yù)算...
Yes NDNs have a whole pipeline in recruiting to deny American workers just to hire H1B workers. Its a well known thing amongst them, they don't even hide it.
某些印度裔招聘官確實(shí)存在系統(tǒng)性排斥美國勞工、偏袒H1B的情況，這是圈內(nèi)公開的秘密，他們甚至毫不掩飾。
One thing CNBC needs to look into are the foreign workers coming over with fake degrees,
there was a reporting done about 4 years ago but no one paid attention!
I'm sure there are well qualified engineers but it's obvious a lot of these foreign workers are being hired for the cheaper wages for the company to save money.
CNBC應(yīng)該調(diào)查持假學(xué)歷入境的外籍勞工，四年前就有相關(guān)報(bào)道但無人關(guān)注！當(dāng)然存在真正合格的工程師，但顯然很多人被雇傭純粹因?yàn)楣べY低廉。
Yes, foreigners are taking American tech jobs. Ask any young US college grad if they can find a tech job.
沒錯(cuò)，外國人正在搶走美國的科技崗位，隨便問個(gè)剛畢業(yè)的美國大學(xué)生，看他們能不能找到科技類的工作。
As a biochemist myself, and a brother-in-law who came in from H1-B for computer engineering, I can completely attest to H1-B workers being brought in to replace American workers with cheap tech labor. My brother-in-law was making $80K as on worker visa, and once married my sister-in-law, his salary immediately 2X overnight after changing visa status. In my field, we hire foreigners for entry-level STEM careers simply so we don't have to pay the salary we would a citizen. It’s insane and akin to modern-day indentured servitude.
作為生物化學(xué)從業(yè)者，且有個(gè)通過H1-B從事計(jì)算機(jī)工程的姐夫，我完全能證明H1B勞工是被用作替代美國技術(shù)工人的廉價(jià)替代品。我姐夫持工作簽證時(shí)年薪8萬，與表姐結(jié)婚轉(zhuǎn)換簽證身份后，薪資立刻翻倍。在我這個(gè)領(lǐng)域我們雇傭外籍人士從事STEM初級崗位，純粹因?yàn)椴挥弥Ц豆裢鹊男劫Y。這種制度既荒謬又類似現(xiàn)代契約奴役。
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You need low skilled workers as much as high skilled workers. Until Elon delivers his robots.
在馬斯克造出機(jī)器人之前，低技能勞工和高技能人才同樣重要。
I pity those who say/think that companies hire H1B workers to keep costs low. These guys have no idea how much more it costs (time, energy and money wise) a company to go for a H1B candidate instead of a local hire!
The real reason behind companies preferring H1Bs has got nothing to do with cost but QUALITY & QUANTITY of work. Something that is crucial in today's age & business. Most locals want high pay but are not willing to deliver high outputs! Why would I pay someone more money to get less work done? Corporations are not fools to not realize this.
真可憐那些認(rèn)為企業(yè)雇H1B是為省錢的人，他們根本不知道企業(yè)要為此額外耗費(fèi)的時(shí)間、精力和資金！企業(yè)偏愛H1B的真實(shí)原因無關(guān)成本，而是工作質(zhì)量和效率——這在當(dāng)今商業(yè)環(huán)境中至關(guān)重要。多數(shù)本地人要價(jià)高還不愿高產(chǎn)，為什么要花更多錢買更低的產(chǎn)出？企業(yè)可不傻。
All big tech companies play well with great benefits. If they want cheap labor why pay so well?
所有科技大廠福利待遇都很優(yōu)渥，如果真是想要廉價(jià)勞工，又何必支付高薪水？
The idea that H1B holders are paid less is simply not true for big tech. There are established pay bands per level at big tech companies, and your offer is a function of your interview performance (hence level).
說H1B持有者薪資更低在科技大廠根本不成立，這些公司有明確的職級薪資標(biāo)準(zhǔn)，薪酬取決于面試表現(xiàn)（即職級）。
I've been on an H1B and have firsthand experience with fraud within the system. Thousands of H1B holders lack basic job skills. The US Department of Labor or USCIS should conduct a 15-minute video interview before issuing a visa to see how many qualify. This should be done every time a renewal is applied. Unfortunately, many of my peers were directly or indirectly tied to Indian consultancies with strong connections to hiring and team managers.
作為前H1B持有者，我親歷過系統(tǒng)內(nèi)的欺詐行為。成千上萬H1B持有者缺乏基本的工作技能，美國勞工部或移民局應(yīng)該在簽發(fā)簽證前進(jìn)行一個(gè)15分鐘視頻面試驗(yàn)證資質(zhì)，每次續(xù)簽也應(yīng)該如此?？杀氖?，許多同行與印度咨詢公司之間存在直接或間接關(guān)聯(lián)，這些公司與招聘經(jīng)理也關(guān)系密切。
We should kick out all the immigrants who are working on the farms making $10 an hour so Americans can take those jobs, but we should let h1b visas in so that big corporations don't have to pay Americans $100k for the higher skilled jobs.
Trump logic.
按特朗普的邏輯，我們應(yīng)該驅(qū)逐所有在農(nóng)場拿10美元時(shí)薪的移民，好讓美國人接手這些工作，同時(shí)引進(jìn)H1B簽證持有者，讓大企業(yè)不用為高技能崗位支付美國人10萬美元年薪了。
Indian software engineers are some of the dumbest worst you can get.
印度軟件工程師可能是你能找到最笨最差勁的，真是沒見過更差勁的。
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These companies love their slaves. Who says slavery is dead.
這些公司就喜歡用奴隸工，誰說奴隸制消失了？
More Microsoft tech support please
麻煩多來點(diǎn)微軟技術(shù)支持人員行嗎？
Even if they are not explicitly taking jobs they are putting a downward pressure on wages .. are we suspending our believes in supply and demand all of a sudden ?
就算他們沒明搶工作，也是在壓低工資水平...難道我們要突然推翻供需規(guī)律嗎？
When kids don’t study STEM domestically, it leads to market demand-supply gap which needs to be filled. This leads to different ways to fill this gap by several employers of different kinds- some right, some wrong, and some other, fall in the grey area.
國內(nèi)孩子不學(xué)STEM就會(huì)造成市場供需缺口，企業(yè)只能用各種手段填補(bǔ)——有些正當(dāng)有些違規(guī)，還有些游走灰色地帶。
等美國年輕人開始按國家需求量去學(xué)習(xí)STEM時(shí)，我們才有資格討論別的可能性。
The visa program discourages Americans from going into stem fields
H1B簽證項(xiàng)目阻礙了美國人進(jìn)入STEM領(lǐng)域
I would say all H1B workers are below average and cheap labour
要我說所有H1B員工都是低于平均水平的廉價(jià)勞動(dòng)力
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without h1b every company will eventually move to India
沒了H1B簽證，所有公司遲早都要搬到印度
As an Indian businessman. I don't support it. My taxes go to IITs, the elite Technology schools which compete with MIT and Harvard. But all the graduates work in American companies or are Taken away to United States.
作為印度商人，我反對這種現(xiàn)象，納稅人的錢都投給對標(biāo)麻省理工的印度理工了，結(jié)果那些畢業(yè)生全跑去美國公司工作。
印度政府應(yīng)該阻止這種亂象，我堅(jiān)決建議把每個(gè)在美印度人都遣返，當(dāng)局應(yīng)專注印度發(fā)展，而不是給美國輸血。
If we put restrictions on h1b, companies will just move the jobs oversees.
限制H1B只會(huì)讓企業(yè)把崗位轉(zhuǎn)移到海外
companies want h1bs because they have leverage over them. work 100 hours a week for us or get deported.
企業(yè)喜歡H1B員工是因?yàn)槟苣媚笏麄儯阂疵恐芨?00小時(shí)，要么被驅(qū)逐出境。
Not a debate. Companies need them cuz local population does not have the same set of skills.
沒什么好爭的，企業(yè)需要這些人就是因?yàn)楸镜厝藳]有同等的技能。
A significant chunk of H1-B applicants that came across my desk, around 20-30% had wildly fabricated education and work histories.
經(jīng)手過的H1B申請中，約20-30%存在嚴(yán)重的學(xué)歷和工作經(jīng)歷造假。
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有人去哈佛旁聽幾節(jié)課就敢說自己是校友，像印孚瑟斯這種外包公司不僅縱容造假，還親自動(dòng)手改簡歷。
STOP H1B Visa or reduce to 50% or less.
要么徹底停發(fā)H1B，要么至少砍掉一半名額
I feel like this fails to show that H1B workers tend to have a work ethic like no other.
你們沒提到關(guān)鍵點(diǎn)：H1B員工的工作態(tài)度無人能及
Finally it's nice to see Women in tech
不過看到更多女性入行倒是好事
It's just companies taking advantage of cheap labor. Nothing new. H1b visa holders work hard and are here for decades at one job for peanuts.
老套路了，企業(yè)壓榨廉價(jià)勞動(dòng)力，H1B員工拼命干活，拿著微薄薪水在同一崗位耗幾十年。
These employees are mostly top performers due to the fact that they need the companies more than the companies need them.
由于他們更需要公司，反而成了最拼命的優(yōu)秀員工。
My company goes above and beyond to hire the best talent, no matter if the candidate is a US citizen or not.
我們公司竭誠招聘頂尖人才，國籍不是門檻。
The current screwed up h-1b system actually helps them! If Govt allows everyone to enter - these H-1bs will not be able to get their decent or high pays anymore!
現(xiàn)在混亂的H1B系統(tǒng)反而保護(hù)了他們！要是全面放開，這些人根本拿不到現(xiàn)在的工資！
We need country caps on H-1Bs. 72% from India is an outrage....No American signed up for this. Put this on any ballot and it will never pass
必須設(shè)置國別限額，72%都來自印度太離譜了，這事要是公投絕對通不過。
Average American engineers should be making the same salary as surgeons, lawyers etc... but they are not because H-1B has driven down the wage market.
美國工程師本該和外科醫(yī)生賺得一樣多，都是H1B壓低了工資水平。
There is no degree you cannot buy in India. Their educational minister even had a FAKE degree.
印度學(xué)歷都能買，他們教育部長文憑都造假。
If India have all these so called skilled workers why is India a sh!thole? China is right next door and they have advanced way beyond our wildest dreams and they don't have H1-B
如果印度真有這么多所謂的技能型人才，怎么還是個(gè)糞坑國家？隔壁中國沒搞H1B簽證，發(fā)展速度卻遠(yuǎn)超我們想象，簡直甩我們幾條街。
H1B takes jobs that Americans actually want and allow us to be middle class. The only jobs left would be minimum wage jobs.
H1B搶走了美國人真正想要的中產(chǎn)崗位，剩下的只有最低工資的苦力活可干。
Elon said people in the USA are to dumb for those jobs it’s hard to disagree with that since teachers and students focus on social issues instead of education. Most students in the USA don’t even learn the metric system till university.
馬斯克說美國人太蠢做不了那些工作，這話很難反駁，畢竟師生都忙著搞社會(huì)運(yùn)動(dòng)而不是學(xué)習(xí)。多數(shù)美國學(xué)生到大學(xué)才接觸公制單位，基礎(chǔ)太差了。
If American workers won’t so lazy and entitled H-1B visa workers wouldn’t even be looked at. It’s your own fault. Try harder. Stop looking inwards so much, and look outwards.
要不是美國工人又懶又自以為是，誰還看H-1B勞工？這鍋得自己背。多努努力，別整天盯著自己那點(diǎn)破事，眼界放開點(diǎn)。
The big issue is longer retention. Employees have to maintain their tenure at company if they're in PERM process. Switching jobs means newer PWD and PERM filing. When the wait is more than a year, companies get higher retention of immigrants compared to US workers by at least 2 years or more
最大問題是留人時(shí)間，申請勞工證（PERM）期間員工不敢跳槽，換工作就得重新走薪資審查和勞工證流程。由于等待期超一年，所以公司對移民員工的留任時(shí)長能比美國人多至少兩年。
just require H1B to have the same salary range as US Citizen, you'll see how this will stop instantly. This isn't a lack of skilled workers, this is a cost cutting measure. H1B can't even switch jobs without risk of losing their progress and obviously can't complain about paid or they'll get fire and go back to their country
強(qiáng)制H1B與美國人同工同酬，亂象立馬消失。根本不是缺人才純粹是壓成本。H1B勞工連跳槽都不敢，怕綠卡進(jìn)度清零，被克扣工資更不敢吱聲——否則卷鋪蓋回國。
I teach engineering at a local university and I have heard some students are considering moving out of SW Engineering because they are concerned the current supply is going to exceed demand. Another issue is that the current the number of foreign students (fueled be the H-1B opportunity) is making it harder for US students to get into top universities. This is further amplified because universities get more money for foreign students than they get for US ones.
我在大學(xué)教工程學(xué)，聽說有學(xué)生因擔(dān)心軟件工程師供過于求而考慮轉(zhuǎn)行。更嚴(yán)重的是，受H-1B誘惑涌來的留學(xué)生擠占了美國學(xué)生進(jìn)名校的機(jī)會(huì)，畢竟學(xué)校收留學(xué)生能多撈錢。
h1B is new slavery, contracting companies mostly dominated by white people who do barely no work take around 30-40% of the h1B visa workers salary.....
H1B就是新型奴隸制，那些白人掌控的外包公司幾乎不干活，卻能抽走H1B員工30-40%的工資。
If you're so smart, why couldn't you stay in your own country and make all the money and create all the jobs you want? You are a traitor to your own country and taking other countries' jobs. You are nothing more than a parasite. Or, how about make your own country the envy of the world? Didn't you say you are smart?
這么聰明怎么不留在母國賺錢創(chuàng)造就業(yè)？你們是祖國的叛徒，搶別人國家飯碗的寄生蟲。不是說聰明嗎？有本事把母國建設(shè)成世界標(biāo)桿??！
The only one that thinks the American dream alive is the visa worker lol
現(xiàn)在只有簽證勞工還相信美國夢呢，笑死。
This visa is a scam because there is no more labor shortage. Of course they are taking jobs from Americans, this is just a matter of supply and demand.
現(xiàn)在根本不缺勞工，這簽證就是騙局。他們當(dāng)然在搶美國人工作，但純粹市場供需問題。
The other issue that the US will not be able to fix is that many large companies just set up remote work places in other countries with more skilled workers that can work on terminals lixed into the US servers, basically making them domestic workers without having to move them into the US.
美國無法解決的另一個(gè)問題是，許多大公司直接在技能更優(yōu)秀的外國設(shè)立遠(yuǎn)程辦公點(diǎn)，讓當(dāng)?shù)貑T工通過終端連接到美國服務(wù)器工作，說白了就是無需移民美國，就能把他們當(dāng)本土員工用。
The unfortunate reality is that most Americans cant afford the education required to compete with international graduates at a higher level. We bring in very few US employees at our place compared to Asia and Europe at the tech company I work for. We do bring in some Americans, but they are a minority. Domestically Americans just cant compete. Yes there is abuse in the program as well, but even if you eliminate it, most Americans won't be able to compete.
殘酷的現(xiàn)實(shí)是，大多數(shù)美國人根本負(fù)擔(dān)不起與國際頂尖畢業(yè)生競爭所需的教育成本。在我任職的科技公司里，相比亞洲和歐洲員工，我們錄用的美國人少得可憐。雖然確實(shí)會(huì)招些美國人，但終究是少數(shù)群體，本土美國人就是缺乏競爭力。當(dāng)然項(xiàng)目里也存在濫用現(xiàn)象，但即便消除這些漏洞，多數(shù)美國人還是拼不過。
The unfortunate truth is that the average H1B holder is likely in the top 1% of all performing employees. They often start of as the brightest students in their country and have to be the best students at US Universities to even get hired. Then they have to a top performing employee for that organization to consider applying for the Visa multiple times till they get it. These barriers to entry ensure that only the very best are sexted. But in all honesty we're just being wasteful with the abundance of talent coming through our doors
真相是，普通H1B持有者可能已是全體員工中頂尖的1%。他們往往先是母國的精英學(xué)子，又得在美國大學(xué)里出類拔萃才能被聘用，接著還要持續(xù)表現(xiàn)優(yōu)異，讓公司愿意多次幫他們申請簽證。這種高門檻確保了只選最強(qiáng)者。但說實(shí)話，面對洶涌而來的頂尖人才，我們卻在暴殄天物。
With indian tech labor you get what you pay for. No quality or skill. Just numbers and bunch of lies
印度技術(shù)勞工就是一分錢一分貨，毫無質(zhì)量或技能可言，純粹拿人海戰(zhàn)術(shù)充數(shù)，還滿嘴跑火車。
There is no shortage of skilled labor in America. Otherwise why would there be hundreds of applications for a job position?
There is shortage of cheap labor in America. These tech companies prioritize profits over citizens who also happened to be their customers as well. Boycott tech companies that prioritize foreign workers over Americans
美國根本不缺技術(shù)人才，否則每個(gè)崗位怎會(huì)有數(shù)百份簡歷投遞？真正缺的是廉價(jià)勞動(dòng)力。這些科技公司把利潤看得比公民更重要，而公民恰恰也是他們的客戶。大家應(yīng)該抵制那些優(yōu)先雇傭外國員工的企業(yè)。
Yes, they do. I know it first hand. Sad thing is most of them are just not good, even bad. Don't believe in the "high skilled" BS.
沒錯(cuò)，確實(shí)如此，我親眼見過這些人，大部分水平實(shí)在不怎么樣，甚至挺糟糕的。千萬別信那些吹噓他們“高技能人才”的鬼話。
One thing that I can never understand is if they’re so special and so smart why don’t they do it in their own country? Why is it that they have to come here to be smart and innovative?
有件事我始終搞不懂：既然他們這么特別、這么聰明，為什么不在自己國家搞創(chuàng)新？為什么非得來這兒才能施展才華？