突發(fā)消息：美國(guó)準(zhǔn)備公布另一款新的隱形戰(zhàn)斗機(jī)（海軍的F/A-XX）。美國(guó)網(wǎng)民興奮異常，紛紛為PPT取名
BREAKING: US set to announce ANOTHER new stealth fighter (the Navy's F/A-XX)
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據(jù)報(bào)道，美國(guó)即將宣布其第二款第六代隱形戰(zhàn)斗機(jī)的合同授予情況，這一次是一款能夠在航空母艦上使用的艦載型戰(zhàn)機(jī)，計(jì)劃為美軍海軍航母服務(wù)。
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According to reports, the U.S. is getting ready to announce the contract award for its second 6th generation stealth fighter, and this time, it’ll be a carrier-capable jet meant for service aboard the U.S. Navy’s aircraft carriers.
據(jù)報(bào)道，美國(guó)即將宣布其第二款第六代隱形戰(zhàn)斗機(jī)的合同授予情況，這一次是一款能夠在航空母艦上使用的艦載型戰(zhàn)機(jī)，計(jì)劃為美軍海軍航母服務(wù)。
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F/A-19 Super Duper Hornet
F/A-19超級(jí)無(wú)敵大黃蜂
Hornet Cat!
大黃貓！
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I LOLd
笑死了。
They already have a super duper hornet
他們已經(jīng)擁有了一款超級(jí)牛逼蜂戰(zhàn)機(jī)
F/A-45 Orange Goblin
F/A-45 橙色地精
wasn't it already confirmed to be F/A-20 for designation
不就是已經(jīng)確認(rèn)型號(hào)是F/A-20了嗎？
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This killed me!!!
這個(gè)讓我笑死了?。?！
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Super Duper is an amazing name...
超級(jí)牛逼是個(gè)非常棒的名字啊
Ultra Hornet, Hornet Platinum, Justice Hornet?
終極大黃蜂、鉑金大黃蜂、正義大黃蜂？
Just an F with a Tesla robot in the back seat.
只是一個(gè)帶著特斯拉機(jī)器人坐在后座的人。
@isaac_shelton f20 is already a jet... it's called the Tigershark. It's actually a pretty cool plane but it's contemporary with the other 4th gen planes.
@isaac_shelton F-20已經(jīng)是一種噴氣式飛機(jī)叫做“虎鯊”，實(shí)際上是一款相當(dāng)酷的飛機(jī)，但它屬于與其他第四代戰(zhàn)機(jī)同時(shí)代的機(jī)型。
If its Grumman and they don't name it the Tomcat II then they are crazy
如果是格魯曼公司制造的，而他們不把它命名為“雄貓II”那他們真是瘋了。
A new fighter should have a new name. Constantly naming things Two, three, and four is just lazy.
新戰(zhàn)士就應(yīng)該有一個(gè)新名字，一直用“二”“三”“四”來(lái)命名實(shí)在太懶了。
@RobertWilliams-ox4hz bingo…but it has to be the F-28 Tomcat II. F-14 x 2
@RobertWilliams-ox4hz 正解……但必須是F-28“雄貓II”，相當(dāng)于F-14的兩倍。
Watch we finally get the Mashup of F14 and F22 being the F-24 Tomcat II concept
我們終于能看到F-14和F-22的結(jié)合，形成了F-24“雄貓II”概念設(shè)計(jì)。
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F-45
@blakewu1375
They will name it TomCruise.
他們會(huì)把它命名為湯姆·克魯斯。
@ That would be wonderful to see, but the next U.S.S. Enterprise will most likely though be with Space Force.
那將會(huì)非常棒，不過(guò)下一艘U.S.S. Enterprise可能會(huì)屬于太空部隊(duì)。
Not if it’s a single-seater.
如果只是單人座的話就不行。
The repeat naming shit needs to stop. It just adds confusion, makes things harder to research, and dilutes the legacy of the original aircraft. It needs a good name, but it needs its own.
重復(fù)使用名稱的行為真的該停止了，這不僅增加了混淆，也讓相關(guān)資料查詢變得更難，同時(shí)還削弱了原始機(jī)型的價(jià)值傳承，它需要一個(gè)好的名字，但必須是獨(dú)有的名字。
? @SmedleyDouwright I like where your going with this but may I offer a new suggestion? The Battlecat; it carries twin engines designed by the most advanced classified tech of the 80's, fueled by the power of Eternia.
@SmedleyDouwright 我喜歡你的想法，但我能否提出一個(gè)新的建議？戰(zhàn)斗貓，它搭載了由80年代最先進(jìn)的機(jī)密技術(shù)設(shè)計(jì)的雙引擎，并以永恒之地的力量作為能源。
Ooh! Can you imagine a stealth swing wing?
哦！你能想象一種隱形可變后掠翼嗎？
@debbiestimac5175 are you forgetting about CVN-80?
@debbiestimac5175 你是不是忘了CVN-80？
It’s Northrop Grumman now.
現(xiàn)在是諾斯羅普·格魯曼公司。
? @SmedleyDouwright 45 tons, with endo steel construction, ferrofibrous armour and two medium lasers and a Gauss rifle for weapons.
@SmedleyDouwright 這是一款45噸重的機(jī)體，采用內(nèi)骨鋼結(jié)構(gòu)，配備鐵纖維裝甲，同時(shí)武器系統(tǒng)包括兩門(mén)中型激光器和一門(mén)高斯步槍。
Im hoping they're naming it F/A-46 Seacat
4 for Wildcat
6 for Hellcat
我希望他們能把它命名為F/A-46海貓，其中4代表野貓，6代表地獄貓。
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Nah, I love the Tomcat but we need to create new cool creative names, not just hang on to the past.
不，我喜歡“雄貓”這個(gè)名字，但我們需要?jiǎng)?chuàng)造一些新的、酷炫且有創(chuàng)意的名字，而不是一味地沉迷于過(guò)去。
It's going to be Northrop Grumman, it's already been leaked. Tomcat II
將由諾斯羅普·格魯曼負(fù)責(zé)，這消息已經(jīng)泄露了，應(yīng)該是“雄貓 II”。
The "Hell-oh Kitty"
“地獄喵喵”
No , it'll be called ....... the Trumpcat 47 .
不，它將被稱為……川普貓47號(hào)。
Why would you curse a jet like that when we already have fat Amy? Call it War Cat, Shadow cat, Panther or something. Tomcat was canceled for all the right reason, one amazing and iconic movie not withstanding.
為什么要給戰(zhàn)機(jī)起這樣的名字詛咒它呢，既然我們已經(jīng)有了胖艾米？不如叫它戰(zhàn)貓、影貓、黑豹什么的，雄貓戰(zhàn)機(jī)之所以被取消是有充分理由的，盡管它在一部令人驚嘆且標(biāo)志性的電影中表現(xiàn)出色。
@ Mathematics would like to have a conversation... stealth is the result of calculations concerning radar energy reflection/angles of incidence. Swing wing cannot be stealth, you will create a non-stealth profile as the wing moves from position to position.
@ Mathematics 希望進(jìn)行一次討論……隱身效果其實(shí)是通過(guò)對(duì)雷達(dá)能量反射和入射角度進(jìn)行計(jì)算得出的，采用可變翼設(shè)計(jì)無(wú)法實(shí)現(xiàn)隱身，當(dāng)機(jī)翼從一個(gè)位置移動(dòng)到另一個(gè)位置時(shí)會(huì)生成一個(gè)非隱身的外形。
The Trumpcat. It will be really fast. It will do 2. It will be the most beautiful jet. It will be stored in a shed. It has been flying for 5 years already.
特朗普貓，這將會(huì)非?？欤軌蛲瓿啥兜乃俣?，這將是最漂亮的噴氣機(jī)，它會(huì)被存放在一個(gè)棚子里，它已經(jīng)飛行了5年之久。
They will name it Trumpcat.
他們會(huì)給它取名為特朗普貓。
DonCat
唐貓 （唐納德川普）
The range requirements mean that it has two engines and a larger airfrx like a Tomcat size.
航程需求意味著這架飛機(jī)需要配備雙引擎，并且機(jī)身尺寸要更大，類似于F-14“雄貓”戰(zhàn)斗機(jī)的大小。
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The plane Northrop had in their ads seems similar to this.
諾斯羅普廣告中的飛機(jī)似乎和這個(gè)很相似。
That is not necessarily true but the Navy does have a great attachment to their second engine. Never mind that it drives cost, maintenance and fuel consumption for a negligible if any increase in reliability.
那倒未必完全正確，但海軍確實(shí)對(duì)他們的第二發(fā)動(dòng)機(jī)有很深的依賴，盡管它導(dǎo)致了成本、維護(hù)和燃料消耗的增加，而可靠性提升卻微乎其微甚至可以忽略不計(jì)。
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@MoreBollocks-ui2zs It's only negligible until you lose an engine over enemy territory
@MoreBollocks-ui2zs 在敵方領(lǐng)土失去一臺(tái)發(fā)動(dòng)機(jī)后，這可就完全不值得忽略了
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? @Shadow__133 Or over the Ocean. Where it will be 90% of the time.
@Shadow__133 或者是在海洋上，畢竟90%的時(shí)間都會(huì)在那里。
? @robertprice7791 The New Engines in the F-22 will give it more Thrust than the SR-71 Blackbird had. If they sneak those into the FA-XX with 2 Engines.... YIKES!
@robertprice7791 F-22的新發(fā)動(dòng)機(jī)將提供比SR-71“黑鳥(niǎo)”更多的推力，如果他們把這種發(fā)動(dòng)機(jī)塞進(jìn)帶有兩臺(tái)發(fā)動(dòng)機(jī)的FA-XX中......那簡(jiǎn)直令人驚嘆！
@VonGoth The f22 has two engines already...
@VonGoth F22戰(zhàn)斗機(jī)本來(lái)就配備了兩臺(tái)發(fā)動(dòng)機(jī)。
@Shadow__133 You may need to look up the meaning of negligible.
@Shadow__133 你可能需要查一下“微不足道”的意思。
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@MoreBollocks-ui2zs “Negligible” means something that is so small or unimportant that it can be disregarded or ignored.
Looking that up was 1000x easier than finding another engine if you happened to lose the one and only one you had.
@"Negligible" 的意思是指某事物非常微小或不重要，可以忽略或不被重視。查找這個(gè)意思遠(yuǎn)比在失去了唯一的引擎后試圖尋找另一個(gè)引擎容易一千倍。
@Shadow__133 And yet your understanding of the definition you regurgitated seems to be even more elusive.
If you had any understanding of the domain you might grasp that that extra engine is not your lifeline. It is much more likely to save your life by being down and keeping you out of the fight than it is to be what gets you home.
@Shadow__133 看起來(lái)你對(duì)你復(fù)述的定義理解得還不夠透徹。
如果你對(duì)這個(gè)領(lǐng)域有任何了解，你可能就會(huì)明白，那額外的引擎并不是你的生命線，它更可能因?yàn)楣收献屇阃顺鰬?zhàn)斗而救了你一命，而不是成為讓你安全回家的關(guān)鍵。
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What a time to be alive - two generational planes in less than a week.
活在這樣的時(shí)代真是令人感慨，一周內(nèi)竟然見(jiàn)證了兩架跨時(shí)代意義的飛機(jī)。
Still not the Century series.
仍然不是世紀(jì)系列。
@FreedomandBaconHomestead and unlike chinas jokes that flew a while back these will actually be working 6th generation platforms
@FreedomandBaconHomestead，與此前中國(guó)那些玩笑般的概念不同，這些將真正成為可投入使用的第六代平臺(tái)。
@matthewmcpherson8831 Lol... Don't forget to take your meds. These are the last days of the dying Yankee empire. Bye bye.
@matthewmcpherson8831 哈哈…… 別忘了吃藥啊。這是快要崩潰的美帝國(guó)最后的日子了，再見(jiàn)啦。
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@a.m.9357 don’t start schitt you can’t handle. You don’t want to be on the wrong team against the F/A-xx FAFO
@a.m.9357 別找事兒，別惹了你應(yīng)付不了的麻煩。你可不想站錯(cuò)隊(duì)對(duì)上F/A-xx FAFO
@matthewmcpherson8831 Show something not on a PPT first. The only "6th" gen you guys have is photoshop. China just did their third flying test today of the J36. Get used to staying down.
@matthewmcpherson8831 先展示一些非PPT上的東西吧，你們所謂的“第六”代不過(guò)是PS的，中國(guó)的J36今天剛剛進(jìn)行了第三次試飛，習(xí)慣一下被壓倒的感覺(jué)吧。
@ they flew two clunky planes and called them 6gen, sorry but I bet you think their aircraft carriers are better also. Might want to get your delusions checked
他們飛了兩架笨重的飛機(jī)就稱它們?yōu)榱鷻C(jī)，抱歉，我猜你可能還覺(jué)得他們的航母更厲害，或許你應(yīng)該好好檢查一下自己的幻覺(jué)。
@matthewmcpherson8831 Why does the F-47 use canards as well？Didn't they used to mock the canards of the J-20 before？
@matthewmcpherson8831 為什么F-47也使用了鴨翼？之前他們不是還嘲笑過(guò)殲-20的鴨翼設(shè)計(jì)嗎？
? @AVWUVU Actually we have the B-21 6th Generation stealth bomber. Technically the first 6th gen to be videoed flying
實(shí)際上，我們擁有B-21第六代隱形轟炸機(jī)，可以說(shuō)是第一次被拍到在空中飛行的第六代轟炸機(jī)。
@jialongtian The removal of the F-47's vertical stabilizers reduce the RCS enough to allow canards to be viable ..
@jialongtian 移除F-47的垂直穩(wěn)定器降低了雷達(dá)截面積，從而使前翼設(shè)計(jì)成為了可行方案。
@rush_17 okok
@rush_17 好的好的
@rush_17 how much copium have u taken bro, u need to slow down.
@rush_17 兄弟，你吸了多少自我安慰鴉片啊，真的該緩緩了。
Thanks
謝謝
@zaco-km3su what because it’s boeing
因?yàn)檫@是波音，所以這樣。
? @a.m.9357 lol.. dont mind him. He hasnt gotten over it. he is still in denial that their edge has eroded....
哈哈，不用理他，他還沒(méi)能釋?xiě)?，仍然否認(rèn)他們的優(yōu)勢(shì)已經(jīng)不復(fù)存在了。
@matthewmcpherson8831 yup and China should be worried about Japan Gen 6 they working on
@matthewmcpherson8831 是的，中國(guó)應(yīng)該擔(dān)心日本正在研發(fā)的第六代戰(zhàn)機(jī)。
Two PowerPoints- not real planes. They are likely still a decade away from service
這只是兩個(gè)概念展示，并不是真正的飛機(jī)，距離正式投入使用很可能還有十年的時(shí)間。
I’ll be surprised if either of them ever fly
如果他們中的任何一個(gè)能飛，我都會(huì)感到驚訝。
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Grumman, I believe you can win this! Also, make it a 2 seater so the WSO can focus on controlling drones. We need a futuristic Tom Cat!
格魯曼，我相信你一定能贏！另外，設(shè)計(jì)成雙座機(jī)，讓武器系統(tǒng)操作員專注于控制無(wú)人機(jī)，我們需要一款充滿未來(lái)感的雄貓戰(zhàn)機(jī)！
Drones are controlled/initiated/monitored via Satellite Data lix... no need for a back seater.
無(wú)人機(jī)通過(guò)衛(wèi)星數(shù)據(jù)鏈進(jìn)行控制、啟動(dòng)和監(jiān)測(cè)，因此不需要后座操作員。
it sounded like for the f47 the flight of the actual jet would be largely autonomous, and the pilot could likely be free to be managing weapons and drones
聽(tīng)起來(lái)，對(duì)于F47實(shí)際戰(zhàn)機(jī)的飛行將主要以自主操作為主，飛行員很可能可以專注于管理武器和無(wú)人機(jī)。
? @debbiestimac5175 that's sounds like it has a massive amount of latency and very easily jammed more so than normal.
Seem like more things can go wrong and will go wrong
@debbiestimac5175 聽(tīng)起來(lái)這種方式存在大量延遲，且比常規(guī)方式更容易受到干擾，甚至被完全阻塞，看起來(lái)問(wèn)題會(huì)更多，也更容易出問(wèn)題。
Actually it’s looking like the pilot is going to be a WSO himself and the flight of the aircraft will be completely autonomous.
實(shí)際上看起來(lái)駕駛員自己將是武器系統(tǒng)操作員，而飛機(jī)的飛行將完全自主進(jìn)行。
revenge of the yf23
YF-23的復(fù)仇
The navy should allow Sandboxx the first reveal of its NGAD.
I want to name it the FA-28 Murder Hornet...
海軍應(yīng)該允許Sandboxx首次公開(kāi)其下一代制空戰(zhàn)機(jī)（NGAD），我想把它命名為“FA-28殺人蜂”...
@King_Dusty_Of_Pookytopia ngad is the 47 fa/xx is the navy’s
@King_Dusty_Of_Pookytopia ngad是第47，fa/xx是海軍的。
Murder Hornets are an Asian species.
殺人蜂是一種亞洲物種。
I hope the USA can keep all those 3 companies going.
They need competition (design and price) and multiple factories etc
我希望美國(guó)能夠讓這三家公司持續(xù)運(yùn)營(yíng)，因?yàn)樗麄冃枰?jìng)爭(zhēng)來(lái)提升設(shè)計(jì)和價(jià)格，同時(shí)也需要多家工廠等資源來(lái)支持發(fā)展。
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@Digmen1 they try to throw each company a bone but it goes further as there are several smaller companies that parasite off the big ones and get the side contracts
@Digmen1 他們?cè)噲D給每家公司一點(diǎn)甜頭，但事情更加復(fù)雜，因?yàn)檫€有一些小公司依附于大公司，通過(guò)獲得側(cè)面合同來(lái)獲利。
AFAIK the Defdnse dept did NGAD and FX-XX differently than prior procurement programs. Instead of inviting companies to a design competition and fly-off, for these two programs the Defdnse dept received contributions from the competitors that were then melded into a common design and manufacturing of that common design would then be awarded to someone.
So no there won't be an aircraft that looks like the F-14 and if there will be a Tomcat it'll be in name only. More likely it'll look like the Chinese J-36 but will be much better. And, I expect whoever builds it will be turning it out like hotcakes using advanced manufacturing faster than any aircraft has been built before.
據(jù)我所知，國(guó)防部在執(zhí)行NGAD和FX-XX這兩個(gè)項(xiàng)目時(shí)采用了與以往采購(gòu)計(jì)劃不同的方式。過(guò)去通常是通過(guò)設(shè)計(jì)競(jìng)賽和試飛選出一個(gè)方案，而這兩個(gè)項(xiàng)目中，國(guó)防部選擇匯集競(jìng)標(biāo)公司提交的設(shè)計(jì)，將其融合成一個(gè)通用設(shè)計(jì)，然后將該通用設(shè)計(jì)的制造工作授予某家企業(yè)。
所以，不會(huì)有類似F-14的飛機(jī)出現(xiàn)。如果未來(lái)有"雄貓"（Tomcat），那也僅僅是一個(gè)名字上的延續(xù)。更可能的是，它的外形會(huì)類似于中國(guó)的J-36，但將表現(xiàn)得更加出色。此外，我預(yù)計(jì)無(wú)論哪家公司中標(biāo)，都將通過(guò)先進(jìn)的制造技術(shù)，以空前的速度像生產(chǎn)熱蛋糕一樣大規(guī)模制造這些飛機(jī)。
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Grumman should name it "The Shadow Cat." It sounds cool and "sending in the Shadows" sounds epic.
格魯曼應(yīng)該把它命名為“暗影貓”，這個(gè)名字聽(tīng)起來(lái)很酷，“派遣暗影”聽(tīng)起來(lái)史詩(shī)級(jí)。
GRUMMAN GRUMMAN GRUMMAN WE SO BACK BOYS.
格魯曼，格魯曼，格魯曼，我們回來(lái)了，兄弟們！
YELLING ABOUT IT
大聲喊出來(lái)。
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He'll yah.
好耶。
@JetleanSam we don't know the winner, stop yelling
@JetleanSam 我們還不知道誰(shuí)是贏家，別喊了。
YF23 or nothing
YF23才是王道，沒(méi)有其他選擇
@CircaSriYak I was thinking if Northrop builds it has to be "the Black Widow"
我在想，如果是由諾斯羅普建造，那就一定得叫“黑寡婦”。
If they are the winner.
如果他們是贏家。
Boeing can build it for half the cost since they already have NGAD.
波音可以以一半的成本建造它，因?yàn)樗麄円呀?jīng)擁有下一代空中主導(dǎo)項(xiàng)目（NGAD）。
@tiju.j Putting both eggs in the Boeing basket would be a bad idea. I expect the F-47 to be a dumpster fire under Boeing and the USAF settling for the F/A-XX like they did with the F-4 Phantom.
@tiju.j 把所有的希望都寄托在波音身上會(huì)是一個(gè)糟糕的選擇，我預(yù)計(jì)在波音的管理下，F(xiàn)-47可能會(huì)成為一個(gè)徹底的失敗，而美國(guó)空軍可能會(huì)像他們當(dāng)初接受F-4幽靈那樣，最終妥協(xié)選擇F/A-XX。
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@Stinger522 I’ve been hearing from insiders the program was already fairly mature, hence winning the contract. I think they’ll be fine. Phantom works isn’t BCA and alot of the old leadership is out.
@Stinger522 我聽(tīng)內(nèi)部人士說(shuō)，這個(gè)項(xiàng)目已經(jīng)相當(dāng)成熟了，所以才能贏得合同。我覺(jué)得他們會(huì)沒(méi)問(wèn)題的。Phantom Works不是BCA，而且很多舊領(lǐng)導(dǎo)層已經(jīng)離開(kāi)了。
@tiju.j they could, but they wouldn’t.
@tiju.j 他們本可以做到，但他們不會(huì)去做。
What if I told you this airfrx, which might be unofficially referred to as NSF, or Naval Stealth Fighter, has been openly flying in and around Guam for years...
如果我告訴你，這種可能被非正式稱為NSF（海軍隱形戰(zhàn)斗機(jī)）的機(jī)體已經(jīng)多年來(lái)在關(guān)島及其周邊公開(kāi)飛行，你會(huì)怎么想呢？
@DanielPrimeRN the source is “trust me bro”?
@DanielPrimeRN 所謂的“相信我，兄弟”就是你的來(lái)源嗎？
@tiju.j not necessarily true especially given that these will not use the same platform. The Navy had very distinct requirements which is why it split from the NGAD program in the first place
@tiju.j 不一定如此，尤其是考慮到這些不會(huì)使用相同的平臺(tái)。海軍有非常獨(dú)特的需求，這也是它當(dāng)初為什么從NGAD項(xiàng)目中獨(dú)立出來(lái)的原因。
@DanielPrimeRN I wouldn’t be surprised at all if a naval tech demonstrator was already flying around like the NGAD demonstrator. It seems like some of these programs had some maturity to their development but were just waiting for signatures from the top.
@DanielPrimeRN 我完全不會(huì)感到驚訝，如果一個(gè)海軍技術(shù)驗(yàn)證機(jī)已經(jīng)像下一代空中優(yōu)勢(shì)戰(zhàn)斗機(jī)（NGAD）的驗(yàn)證機(jī)一樣在空中飛行，這些項(xiàng)目看起來(lái)已經(jīng)擁有一定的成熟度，只是一直在等待高層的批準(zhǔn)。
@ Naval aviation stays winning.
海航永遠(yuǎn)是贏家。
?@tiju.j Boeing is ha ing trouble building airlines that don't fallout of the sky. The low balled the bid on the NGAD. Knowing they can later on throw in cost over runs, and price increases .
@tiju.j 波音公司正面臨難以制造不會(huì)從天上掉下來(lái)的飛機(jī)的問(wèn)題，他們?cè)谙乱淮罩袃?yōu)勢(shì)戰(zhàn)斗機(jī)（NGAD）的競(jìng)標(biāo)中壓低了報(bào)價(jià)，因?yàn)樗麄冎乐罂梢越铏C(jī)增加成本超支和提價(jià)。
@Stinger522
And Boeing has so many production issues outside the F-15 EX and the P-8. It just doesn't make sense to start up 2 fighter production lines
at the same company. Northrop Grumman is moving along fine with the B-21, so it makes sense to give them the Navy fighter contract.
@Stinger522
波音在F-15 EX和P-8之外還有許多生產(chǎn)問(wèn)題，因此在同一家公司啟動(dòng)兩條戰(zhàn)斗機(jī)生產(chǎn)線顯得毫無(wú)意義，而諾斯羅普·格魯曼的B-21項(xiàng)目進(jìn)展順利，因此將海軍戰(zhàn)斗機(jī)合同交給他們更為合理。
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Northrup?
諾思羅普？
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US carrier decks need to have cats back on it.
Imagine the Ford-class Enterprise with Grumman cats on it. Grumman Ironworks baby!
美國(guó)的航母甲板需要重新安裝彈射器，想象一下福特級(jí)的企業(yè)號(hào)航母上配備格魯曼的彈射器，格魯曼鐵工廠威武！
@Stinger522 They said it's been flying for 5 years. Hopefully that means it's a reliable plane. Boeing has had some rough years
@Stinger522 他們說(shuō)這架飛機(jī)已經(jīng)飛行了5年，希望這意味著它是一架可靠的飛機(jī)，波音這些年確實(shí)經(jīng)歷了一段艱難時(shí)期。
Give that Trump just used F-47 for the AF, what's the betting that it's the F-45 for the Navy?
鑒于特朗普剛剛為空軍采用了F-47，你們覺(jué)得海軍會(huì)選用F-45的可能性有多大？
Ever play VTOL VR? The F-45 in that game is honestly pretty fun.
你有沒(méi)有玩過(guò)《VTOL VR》？游戲里的F-45真的挺有意思的。
Surely no one has that much ego...
肯定沒(méi)有人自負(fù)到那種程度吧。
I hope that’s what happens. Epic planes for an epic president.
我希望事情會(huì)是這樣的，宏偉的飛機(jī)配得上這位非凡的總統(tǒng)。
@ He is sure trying to make this term epic. Probably compensating for how badly his first term went. Its really tough for an idiot narcissists to accept these types of failures. The results may be bad but the show will be epic.
他顯然在努力讓這一任期顯得壯觀，可能是為了彌補(bǔ)他第一任期表現(xiàn)得如此糟糕，對(duì)一個(gè)愚蠢的自戀者來(lái)說(shuō)要接受這樣的失敗確實(shí)非常困難，結(jié)果可能會(huì)很糟糕，但這場(chǎng)表演肯定會(huì)很具有戲劇性。
The F-47 better be called Thunderbolt 2.
F-47應(yīng)該叫雷霆二型更合適。
@john_in_phoenix uhh my man it’d have to be thunderbolt III. A-10 is technically thunderbolt II
@john_in_phoenix 兄弟，那應(yīng)該是雷電三吧，A-10其實(shí)是雷電二。
@john_in_phoenix thunderbolt was already used by the A-10
@john_in_phoenix 雷霆已經(jīng)被A-10攻擊機(jī)使用過(guò)了
At least that numbering kinda makes sense. I’m more worried they’ll name it F-50-something
至少這種編號(hào)方式還算有點(diǎn)道理，我更擔(dān)心他們會(huì)把它命名為F-50多一點(diǎn)的東西。
@john_in_phoenix That is no less original than any of the other "2" suggestions.
@john_in_phoenix 那和其他所有的“2”號(hào)建議一樣毫無(wú)新意。
@MoreBollocks-ui2zs i mean he bankrupted 3 casinos and now on his way to bankrupt the whole country,of course he does.
我指的是他讓三家賭場(chǎng)破產(chǎn)，現(xiàn)在正準(zhǔn)備讓整個(gè)國(guó)家破產(chǎn)，當(dāng)然他會(huì)這樣做。
? @MoreBollocks-ui2zs : Speaking as someone who generally supports Trump policies? Yes, he can absolutely be that egotistical.
作為一個(gè)通常支持特朗普政策的人來(lái)說(shuō)？是的，他絕對(duì)有可能那么自負(fù)。
To serve on the CV47 Uss Donald Trump.
在 CV47 USS 唐納德·特朗普號(hào)上服役。
@MoreBollocks-ui2zs I sympathize, but look at history. Yes, someone definitely can. We're talking about someone who likes having his name displayed on the sides of his buildings.
@MoreBollocks-ui2zs 我很能理解，但看看歷史吧，是的，有人確實(shí)能做到。我們說(shuō)的是一個(gè)喜歡把自己的名字掛在自己建筑側(cè)面的人。
Trump didn't name it.
特朗普沒(méi)有提到它。
@helmsscotta I support many of the things he says he wants to accomplish. The things he actually does frequently do not align with the stated goals. That he gets away with that just feeds his ego.
@helmsscotta 我支持他所說(shuō)的許多想要實(shí)現(xiàn)的目標(biāo)，但他實(shí)際所做的事情往往與這些聲明的目標(biāo)不一致，而他能夠逃避責(zé)任只是進(jìn)一步助長(zhǎng)了他的自負(fù)。
@angusmatheson8906 There is some debate about that. Either way though it seems so on brand that it is hard to dismiss.
@angusmatheson8906 關(guān)于這點(diǎn)還有一些爭(zhēng)議，不過(guò)不管怎么說(shuō)，這似乎非常符合風(fēng)格，很難讓人忽視。
F48
@matthewmcpherson8831
That was my thought,lol
那正是我的想法，哈哈。
DonCat
DonCat（唐貓）
I came here to say the same
我來(lái)這里就是想表達(dá)同樣的意思。
? @JojoJoget Oof, last president had a 9% inflation rate one year into his presidency.
@JojoJoget 噢，上任總統(tǒng)在任期開(kāi)始一年的時(shí)候就達(dá)到了9%的通貨膨脹率。
@kurtwagner350 F-150 Super Duty
@kurtwagner350 F-150超級(jí)重型卡車
my first thought: FA-45
我的第一反應(yīng)是：FA-45
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?@MoreBollocks-ui2zs why not? Extreme self-loathing is typical for those that are disgusted by ego...
@MoreBollocks-ui2zs 為什么不呢？極度的自我厭惡通常是那些對(duì)自我感到厭惡的人所特有的情感。
I like Doncat or f-45 Trumpcard
我喜歡Doncat或F-45王牌。
@MoreBollocks-ui2zs show me a good leader that didn’t have a huge ego?
請(qǐng)給我舉一個(gè)沒(méi)有強(qiáng)烈自我意識(shí)的優(yōu)秀領(lǐng)導(dǎo)者。
Didn’t you hear he’s not paying for illegal immigrants anymore.These two aircraft’s are cheaper than paying for the immigrants.
你沒(méi)聽(tīng)說(shuō)嗎，他已經(jīng)不再為非法移民買單了，這兩架飛機(jī)的花費(fèi)比支付移民費(fèi)用還要便宜。
? @S0RELOSER Virtually all of them.
@S0RELOSER 幾乎全部都是這樣。
@S0RELOSER I'm former military, I've known plenty. But that doesn't help you I know. Maybe look at people like Hal Moore or Richard Winters, They are immortalized in pop culture and should give you an idea of how leadership and character intersect. There are plenty of other leaders in history, including American political history that are not known for their ego.
Beyond that I've never known a good leader who did have a huge ego. What you're likely confused about is what constitutes greatness, leadership or even competence. Sadly Trump has not shown a grasp of any of those concepts either.
Maybe you could provide examples of some 'good leaders' who are known to have a huge ego?
我曾經(jīng)是軍人，認(rèn)識(shí)了不少領(lǐng)導(dǎo)者，但這對(duì)你可能沒(méi)什么幫助。我建議你看看像哈爾·摩爾（Hal Moore）或者理查德·溫特斯（Richard Winters）這樣的人，他們?cè)诹餍形幕斜挥篮沣懹洠梢宰屇憷斫忸I(lǐng)導(dǎo)力和品格如何交織在一起。歷史中還有許多領(lǐng)袖，包括美國(guó)政治歷史上一些不以自我為中心著稱的領(lǐng)導(dǎo)者。
此外，我從未認(rèn)識(shí)過(guò)一個(gè)擁有巨大自負(fù)的優(yōu)秀領(lǐng)導(dǎo)者。你可能混淆了偉大、領(lǐng)導(dǎo)力甚至是能力的定義。不幸的是，特朗普也未曾表現(xiàn)出對(duì)這些概念的理解。
也許你可以舉一些擁有巨大自負(fù)卻被認(rèn)為是"好領(lǐng)導(dǎo)者"的例子來(lái)讓我了解？
???? @JojoJoget He bankrupted a few casinos out of how many tens of businesses he had? Trump's plenty deserving of criticism but this isn't one of them.
Plus F-45 would be funny
@JojoJoget 他運(yùn)營(yíng)的幾家賭場(chǎng)破產(chǎn)了，但考慮到他擁有的數(shù)十家企業(yè)，這并不是值得批評(píng)的地方，雖然特朗普有很多地方值得被批評(píng)，但這件事算不上其中之一。另外，F(xiàn)-45真的很有趣。
@bowencreer3922
Please.Trump should just award the contracts to Sukhoi and the MIG bureau to show how "Epic" a bought and sold President he is.
拜托，特朗普應(yīng)該直接把合同授予蘇霍伊和米格設(shè)計(jì)局，這樣就能充分展示他作為一個(gè)被買通的總統(tǒng)有多“史詩(shī)級(jí)”。
@MoreBollocks-ui2zs well the problem is he says lots of contradictory things too. Some I agree with plenty I don’t…and what he actual does is a different set of things…and then there is the how, he has done plenty I could agree with, except he does it in a dumb or self destructive way. Makes me disagree with stuff I wanted because sometimes how you do something matters as much or more then the goal.
@MoreBollocks-ui2zs 問(wèn)題在于他總是說(shuō)很多自相矛盾的話，其中有一些我贊同，但更多的是我不贊同的，此外他實(shí)際做的事情又是另外一套，與他說(shuō)的往往不同，然后就是方式問(wèn)題，他確實(shí)做了一些我可能贊同的事情，但常常以愚蠢或自毀的方式去做，這使我甚至開(kāi)始反對(duì)那些我原本支持的目標(biāo)，因?yàn)橛袝r(shí)候做事情的方式和過(guò)程與目標(biāo)本身同樣重要甚至更重要。
The "felon" name is already taken.
“犯人”這個(gè)名字已經(jīng)被占用了。
? @MoreBollocks-ui2zs every president ever has had that much ego.
@MoreBollocks-ui2zs 每一位總統(tǒng)都擁有這么大的自負(fù)。
@bariman223 he built them, he can call them whatever he wants.
@bariman223 他造的，他想叫什么就叫什么。
@S0RELOSER Michael Jordan was a great basketball player. As an executive, he's been holding the Hornets back for 20 years.
@S0RELOSER 邁克爾·喬丹曾是一位偉大的籃球運(yùn)動(dòng)員，但作為管理者，他過(guò)去20年來(lái)一直在拖累黃蜂隊(duì)的發(fā)展。
@davidradtke160 Pretty low bar but it's a reasonable distinction.
@davidradtke160 標(biāo)準(zhǔn)確實(shí)不高，但這個(gè)區(qū)分還是有一定道理的。
@SlyNine Can you prove that? Then try to identify any that were actually good leaders.
你能證明這一點(diǎn)嗎？那就試著找出那些真正是優(yōu)秀領(lǐng)導(dǎo)者的人吧。
The USN's long-standing tradition of using Grumman aircraft, would see all right with the world.
美國(guó)海軍長(zhǎng)期以來(lái)使用格魯曼飛機(jī)的傳統(tǒng)使得一切看起來(lái)都很順理成章。
Time to bring the Hell Cat name out of retirement.... mhm.
是時(shí)候讓“地獄貓”這個(gè)名字重新出山了……嗯。
PACIFIC THEATER HERE WE COME
太平洋戰(zhàn)區(qū)，我們來(lái)了！
Getting the USAF ready to sorte out of the Marianas islands (Tinian,Saipan,Guam, Yap) Northern Australia,and the Philippines.
正在準(zhǔn)備美國(guó)空軍從馬里亞納群島（包括天寧島、塞班島、關(guān)島、雅浦島）、澳大利亞北部和菲律賓出擊。
I hope you guys enlist.
希望你們能夠入伍服役。
Hi Alex. Love the program. Waiting for more SR-72.
嗨，Alex，喜歡這個(gè)節(jié)目，期待更多關(guān)于SR-72的內(nèi)容。
I think the SR-72 will be unmanned- the extreme heat of hypersonic flight is not friendly to humans.
我認(rèn)為SR-72將會(huì)是無(wú)人的，因?yàn)槌羲亠w行的極端高溫對(duì)人類并不友好。
technically 3 with the b-21
嚴(yán)格來(lái)說(shuō)，加上B-21就是三個(gè)。
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@songhan1586 but that is not a fighter, it’s a bomber
@songhan1586 但那不是戰(zhàn)斗機(jī)，是轟炸機(jī)。
@bicboi1930 military didn't design anything. All these different companies have been designing future advanced planes on a constant basis. When the F22was still a YF22, L/M Skunkworks was already designing a replacement for that platform. All these companies advanced design departments are already developing future platforms to replace this 6th generation platform, before it's even built and flying.
@bicboi1930 軍方并沒(méi)有設(shè)計(jì)任何東西，這些關(guān)于未來(lái)先進(jìn)飛機(jī)的設(shè)計(jì)一直是由不同的公司在持續(xù)進(jìn)行。當(dāng)F22還只是YF22時(shí)，洛克希德·馬丁的臭鼬工廠已經(jīng)在設(shè)計(jì)替代這個(gè)平臺(tái)的下一代產(chǎn)品，而所有這些公司的先進(jìn)設(shè)計(jì)部門(mén)目前就已經(jīng)在開(kāi)發(fā)用來(lái)替代第六代平臺(tái)的未來(lái)方案，即便這些平臺(tái)其實(shí)還沒(méi)有被制造出來(lái)、更沒(méi)有開(kāi)始飛行。
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@thomasblankinship98 idk the exact dates and it probably is an exaggeration, but 5th gen aircraft have a much shorter than expected lifespan. If I remember correctly the F22 wasn't even really ready to be used in a near-peer fight until the early 2010s. Thats barely 15 years before getting replaced when the F22 was going to be at the cutting edge for a long long time.
@thomasblankinship98 我不清楚具體的時(shí)間，可能有些夸張，但第五代戰(zhàn)機(jī)的使用壽命確實(shí)比預(yù)期要短得多。如果我沒(méi)記錯(cuò)的話，F(xiàn)22直到2010年代初才真正準(zhǔn)備好參與與實(shí)力接近的對(duì)手的戰(zhàn)斗，而距離它被更先進(jìn)的戰(zhàn)機(jī)取代的時(shí)間僅僅15年左右，原本預(yù)期是F22能夠在尖端領(lǐng)域持久活躍。
We've had one, yes, but what about a second announcement?
我們已經(jīng)有一個(gè)公告了，是的，那么第二個(gè)公告怎么樣呢？
Throw in a hypersonic missile announcement for elevenses.
發(fā)布一個(gè)超音速導(dǎo)彈的消息來(lái)作為上午茶的放松話題吧。
Wonder how much commonality it's gonna have with the NGAD? Some people are saying the programs were secretly combined.
不知道這款飛機(jī)會(huì)和下一代空中優(yōu)勢(shì)戰(zhàn)斗機(jī)（NGAD）有多少共同點(diǎn)，有人說(shuō)這些項(xiàng)目可能已經(jīng)秘密合并了。
Evil laughter commences
邪惡的笑聲響起
What are the odds for F/A-45?
F/A-45的推出可能性有多高？
F/A-48 aka "Unconstitutional"
F/A-48，也被稱為“違憲”
F/A-48
F/A-48
@bobbyraejohnson
@verdebusterAP Trump has nothing to do with the designations…. And honestly he deserves an aircraft carrier named after him from the crap he’s had to put up with.
特朗普與這些命名毫無(wú)關(guān)系，說(shuō)實(shí)話，以他經(jīng)歷過(guò)的那些糟心事來(lái)看，他確實(shí)應(yīng)該有一艘以他名字命名的航空母艦。
@dillonh321 Sadly "Felon" is already taken
@dillonh321 可惜“Felon”這個(gè)名字已經(jīng)被占用了
@robertfoster347 first thought
@robertfoster347 第一個(gè)想法
F/A-45 Felon
F/A-45 "惡棍"
feels really weird that lockheed wont be leading the way with 6th gens
感覺(jué)很奇怪，洛克希德居然沒(méi)有在第六代戰(zhàn)機(jī)研發(fā)上引領(lǐng)潮流。
They'll be busy making the SR-72 and the decades worth of F-35 to come. That thing's barely even started its service, lol
他們會(huì)忙著制造SR-72和未來(lái)幾十年還會(huì)繼續(xù)生產(chǎn)的F-35，那玩意的服役生涯才剛剛開(kāi)始，哈哈。
? @mfallen2023 same thought. Maybe LockMart has been given the contract to build the SR-72 for full production.
@mfallen2023，我有同樣的想法，也許洛克希德馬丁公司已經(jīng)拿到了SR-72的全面生產(chǎn)合同。
Wait, didn't canards suck?
等等，鴨式布局不是很差勁嗎？
Seems like with the removal of the vertical stabilizers that it reduced radar cross section enough for canards to be viable
看起來(lái)取消垂直尾翼后，減少了雷達(dá)反射面積，從而讓前翼設(shè)計(jì)變得可行。
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Everything sucks and is a flaw for thee but not for me
Jk
一切對(duì)你來(lái)說(shuō)都是糟糕和缺陷，但對(duì)我來(lái)說(shuō)就不是
笑話
Only if America doesn't make it. Also, don't touch our boats. :P
除非美國(guó)不參加比賽，否則別碰我們的船。 :P
Canards are great for close range fighting. Give a lot of instant AoA access.
鴨翼在近距離戰(zhàn)斗中非常出色，能夠迅速提供大量的攻角控制。
It depends
if they are blended with minimal space then no
but if they are like the J-20 then yes
這取決于情況，如果它們之間的間距非常小，那么不會(huì)；但如果它們的設(shè)計(jì)像殲-20那樣，那么就有問(wèn)題。
It doesn’t have canards. What people are seeing that they think are canards is actually the top lip/edge of the intake. If you look at the other artist animation with the overhead view there is no canards and it is apparently just the intakes.
I’m talking about the image at 0:30.
它沒(méi)有鴨翼，人們認(rèn)為是鴨翼的結(jié)構(gòu)實(shí)際上是進(jìn)氣口的上唇或邊緣，如果你查看另一個(gè)帶有俯視視角的藝術(shù)動(dòng)畫(huà)圖像，就會(huì)發(fā)現(xiàn)確實(shí)沒(méi)有鴨翼，很明顯那只是進(jìn)氣口。我指的是0:30處的圖像。
? @dillonh321 The image at :30 is a retouched image of the original release, adjusted to show canards. Whether it has them or not......???
@dillonh321 視頻中 30 秒的畫(huà)面是對(duì)原始發(fā)布圖像進(jìn)行的修飾版本，調(diào)整后展示了鴨翼，但具體是否真的有鴨翼還不確定……
Who says there couldn't have been technical and material developments that made them to feasible.
誰(shuí)說(shuō)就不能存在某些技術(shù)和材料的發(fā)展，使得它們變得可行呢？
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@imaginos377 all of these images should tell us that they are all photoshop pictures and we don’t even have a flying prototype.
@imaginos377 所有這些圖片都應(yīng)該告訴我們它們都是用PS制作的，我們甚至連一個(gè)飛行原型都沒(méi)有。
In high low, f35 is about to be the new low
在高低搭配中，F(xiàn)35似乎即將成為新的低端選擇。
How EXCITED is Alex. He is SCREAMING!!!!!!
It is very rare that 2-5 new cutting-edge DOD military aircraft are revealed within a 2 year period. For those of you old enough to remember...The F-117A, B-2, and F-22 were revealed in the1980s. Then the JSF F-35A/B/C were revealed on the 1990s. Then nothing new in the 2000s, 2010s, and into the mid-2020s.
亞歷克斯顯得非常興奮，甚至在尖叫！兩年內(nèi)同時(shí)公開(kāi)兩到五種尖端的國(guó)防部軍用飛機(jī)是極其罕見(jiàn)的事。對(duì)于那些足夠年長(zhǎng)的人來(lái)說(shuō)，你可能還記得，F(xiàn)-117A、B-2和F-22是在1980年代被公開(kāi)的，然后是在1990年代公布了JSF F-35A/B/C，但在2000年代、2010年代以及直到2020年代中期都沒(méi)有新的型號(hào)被公開(kāi)。
pretty sure itss f-22 90s, f35-2000s/late late 90s
很確定這是F-22屬于90年代，而F-35是2000年代或者非常接近90年代末期的產(chǎn)品。
@univrzsal Contract Awards for the F22 were in 1991 and for the F35 in 2001. The development of the flying prototypes occurred in the prior decade.
@univrzsal F22的合約授予時(shí)間是1991年，而F35則是2001年，飛行原型的研發(fā)工作早在之前的十年間就已經(jīng)展開(kāi)。
I’m hoping for the Son of Tomcat!
我希望能看到“雄貓之子”！
Isn't that the 22?
Should that be the son of the Raptor?
那不是22號(hào)機(jī)嗎，是猛禽戰(zhàn)斗機(jī)的后代吧？
For what reason? Swing wing design is long behind. That's not coming back.
為什么？可變翼設(shè)計(jì)早已過(guò)時(shí)，不可能再回來(lái)了。
? @JSFGuy because it will be the first aircraft since the F-14 to offer the characteristics of range, payload and speed off of an aircraft carrier. The F-18 can only go supersonic when it's completely clean of any weapons or payload and barely does it then. If the Super Tomcat had been built it would still be today the best and most capable 4th Gen fighter ever made. A big reason the F/A-XX program even exists is because the Navy doesn't have the capabilities they had with the F-14 and they need those capabilities now. In a lot of ways this program is more important than the NGAD F-47
@JSFGuy 因?yàn)檫@將是繼F-14之后首次有能在航母上具備航程、載荷和速度綜合性能的飛機(jī)。F-18只有在完全不掛載任何武器或載荷的情況下才能勉強(qiáng)達(dá)到超音速，而即便如此也很困難。如果超級(jí)雄貓（Super Tomcat）計(jì)劃得以實(shí)施，那么即使在今天，它依然會(huì)是有史以來(lái)性能最強(qiáng)、能力最全面的第四代戰(zhàn)斗機(jī)之一。海軍當(dāng)前推進(jìn)F/A-XX計(jì)劃的一個(gè)重要原因在于，他們現(xiàn)在缺乏過(guò)去F-14所賦予的那些能力，而這些能力是眼下面對(duì)挑戰(zhàn)迫切需要的。從很多方面來(lái)看，這一計(jì)劃相比NGAD F-47計(jì)劃可能更為重要。
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@JSFGuy Correct, they are so maintainer intensive it's ruinous to field a variable geometry jet to the fleet. 80 hours for every flight hour when the F-14 was finally retired.
@JSFGuy 沒(méi)錯(cuò)，它們的維護(hù)需求非常高，以至于讓一個(gè)變后掠翼戰(zhàn)機(jī)服役于艦隊(duì)實(shí)在是損耗巨大。F-14退役時(shí)，每飛行一小時(shí)需要耗費(fèi)80小時(shí)的維護(hù)工作。
@debbiestimac5175 Right, I'm a fighter maintainer, we kept tabs on maintenance intensity and maintenance friendly platforms. Never mind the mishap rate on the Tomcat.
@debbiestimac5175 沒(méi)錯(cuò)，我是一名戰(zhàn)斗機(jī)維修人員，我們一直關(guān)注維修強(qiáng)度和維修友好的平臺(tái)，至于"貓式"戰(zhàn)斗機(jī)的事故率就不必談了。
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@sgsheff very well. I know the mission requirements and whatnot do we evolve. I think they've got what they want in the JSF for now.
@sgsheff 非常好，我了解任務(wù)需求以及相關(guān)的內(nèi)容，隨著我們不斷發(fā)展，我認(rèn)為他們暫時(shí)已經(jīng)在聯(lián)合攻擊戰(zhàn)斗機(jī)（JSF）中得到了他們想要的東西。
I hope they do, if for no other reason to troll the crybabies. Also, it would be the f47B (they use letters to show variations.)
我希望他們真的這么做，哪怕唯一的理由只是為了愚弄那些愛(ài)哭鬼，而且這應(yīng)該是型號(hào)F47B（他們用字母來(lái)表示不同的版本）。
You forgot to mention Boing is also on the hook for the F15 EX
你忘了提到波音公司也承擔(dān)了制造F15 EX的責(zé)任。
Boeing St. Louis actually does something right for the company. They have the unmanned tanker coming and F-47 along with F-15EX after Super Hornet/Growler line folds soon.
波音圣路易斯確實(shí)為公司做了一些正確的事情，他們即將推出無(wú)人加油機(jī)，還有F-47以及F-15EX，盡管超級(jí)大黃蜂/咆哮者生產(chǎn)線即將關(guān)閉。
And not to mention the T7 and other offshoots like some of the 777X composites.
更不用提T7以及一些衍生型號(hào)，比如777X的復(fù)合材料了。
If we could have a Boeing F-47, Lockheed Martin SR72, Northrop Grumman FA-XX and B21 Raider; that would be pretty cool
如果我們能擁有波音F-47、洛克希德·馬丁SR-72、諾斯羅普·格魯曼FA-XX和B-21襲擊者，那會(huì)非?？?。
Man. I cant wait to see the f47 and fa-xx flying publicly. Can't come soon enough! Excited!
哇，我真是迫不及待想看到F47和FA-XX公開(kāi)飛行的場(chǎng)景，真希望快點(diǎn)到來(lái)，太讓我激動(dòng)了！
I’ve already seen them. They have a blue exhaust at super high altitude. They look like something out of a space movie.
我已經(jīng)見(jiàn)過(guò)它們了，它們?cè)诔呖诊w行時(shí)會(huì)噴出藍(lán)色尾氣，看起來(lái)就像是科幻電影中的場(chǎng)景。
It's the same F-47 but "navalised".
I've called it some couple days ago or so.
這是同樣的F-47，只是進(jìn)行了“海軍化”改造。
我?guī)滋烨熬吞岬搅诉@個(gè)。
probably more like the 47 was the FAXX that had the carrier op stuff removed.
可能更像是47是FAXX版本，只是去掉了航母操作相關(guān)的東西。
@Jeff55369 Exactly, it's "viceversa".
Instead of trying to "navalise" the USAF fighter (for more than 50 years all USAF fighters went also thru the scrutiny of navalisation)... this time is the other way around: already carrier capable, and a USAF " version" of it.
(JS)F-35 was doomed from the start to be a single-engine because of the USMC F-35 requirements, but this time is just a USAF/USNavy partnership.
@Jeff55369 沒(méi)錯(cuò)，正是“反過(guò)來(lái)”的意思。
與其試圖將美國(guó)空軍的戰(zhàn)斗機(jī)進(jìn)行“艦載化”（因?yàn)檫^(guò)去五十多年來(lái)所有美國(guó)空軍的戰(zhàn)斗機(jī)都必須通過(guò)艦載化的嚴(yán)格審查），這次則是反過(guò)來(lái)的情況：以已經(jīng)具備艦載能力為基礎(chǔ)，再開(kāi)發(fā)出一個(gè)適配于美國(guó)空軍的“版本”。
從一開(kāi)始，由于滿足美國(guó)海軍陸戰(zhàn)隊(duì)對(duì)F-35的需求，（聯(lián)合攻擊戰(zhàn)斗機(jī)）F-35注定會(huì)成為單引擎戰(zhàn)斗機(jī)，不過(guò)這次僅是美國(guó)空軍與美國(guó)海軍之間的合作罷了。
We’ve been hearing about these planes for a long time. It’s be nice to see one
我們聽(tīng)說(shuō)這些飛機(jī)已經(jīng)很久了，能看到一架應(yīng)該會(huì)很不錯(cuò)。
Can’t wait to see what NG comes up with for this 6th gen concept. The YF-23 was a masterpiece way ahead of its time!!
迫不及待想看看諾斯羅普·格魯曼為第六代概念設(shè)計(jì)會(huì)帶來(lái)什么，這款YF-23真是一件遠(yuǎn)超時(shí)代的杰作！
So far ahead , it lost to the F22
它遙遙領(lǐng)先，但還是輸給了F22。
@thomasblankinship98 top brass were risk adverse, widely known yf-23 was the superior platform
@thomasblankinship98 高層領(lǐng)導(dǎo)過(guò)于保守眾所周知YF-23才是性能更優(yōu)的平臺(tái)
Need the wildcat 2 or tigercat ..come on gruman
要“野貓2”或者“虎貓”……加油，格魯曼！
Sabertooth
劍齒虎
Or a Shark reference, or maybe “wildcat” or “flametiger” possibly I’m bad at giving names
或者是鯊魚(yú)的名字，也可能是“野貓”或者“火焰虎”，可能我取名字真的不在行。
Cant wait for them to let the f22 off the chain
迫不及待想要看到他們解放F22的全部潛力。
Navy will probably have something cooler than the F-47 Grifter.
海軍可能會(huì)有比F-47 Grifter更酷的東西。
We are so fucking back boys
我們他媽的又回來(lái)了，兄弟們！
These were under development since early 2010's. This Program started under Obama. Shows how you have continuity no matter who is in charge and you've actually been back since then.
這些項(xiàng)目自2010年代初開(kāi)始研發(fā)，該計(jì)劃始于奧巴馬執(zhí)政時(shí)期，這表明無(wú)論誰(shuí)執(zhí)政都能保持一定的延續(xù)性，事實(shí)上從那時(shí)起一直在穩(wěn)步推進(jìn)。
lol, the US won't be a country long enough for this thing to ever become active.
哈哈，美國(guó)可能還沒(méi)等這東西開(kāi)始運(yùn)行就已經(jīng)不存在了吧。
@RocketRon7779 it was in Limbo until now. Obama might have started it but Trump brought home the W. Obama couldn't finish the job so Trump had too.
@RocketRon7779 事情之前一直懸而未決，可能是奧巴馬開(kāi)啟了這個(gè)局面，但特朗普最終贏得了勝利，奧巴馬沒(méi)能完成任務(wù)，所以由特朗普接手完成。
@RocketRon7779 except that we don’t have continuity. America died in 2020. We did not have a peaceful transition of power. Hence why the world fell apart. We have brought it back to life.
@RocketRon7779 除了我們沒(méi)有延續(xù)性，美國(guó)已經(jīng)在2020年死亡，我們沒(méi)有經(jīng)歷權(quán)力的和平交接，這也是為什么世界陷入混亂的原因，不過(guò)我們已經(jīng)讓它重新復(fù)活了。
Nah New Zealand will be the next superpower.
新西蘭將會(huì)成為下一個(gè)超級(jí)大國(guó)。
@xxrustyxx_6977 didn't their flag ship just sink? Sure dude, whatever delusions you want to believe.
@xxrustyxx_6977 他們的主力艦剛剛沉沒(méi)不是嗎？行吧，隨便你愿意相信什么樣的妄想。
@illcomplywithguncontrolone6149 talk about delusional. Trump has been back in power for a month and you’re giving him credit for something that has been in development for 15 years
He has absolutely nothing to do with it, nor does any politician.
Also, I know how dim Trump voters are, but how tf did you not know the New Zealand comment above was a joke?!
@illcomplywithguncontrolone6149 太過(guò)妄想了吧，特朗普才重新掌權(quán)一個(gè)月，你就把這個(gè)已經(jīng)研發(fā)了15年的東西歸功于他。這跟他完全沒(méi)有關(guān)系，跟任何政客也沒(méi)關(guān)系。另外我知道特朗普的支持者有多愚鈍，但你居然看不出來(lái)上面那個(gè)關(guān)于新西蘭的評(píng)論是個(gè)玩笑嗎？！
? @illcomplywithguncontrolone6149 I think he was just kidding around
@illcomplywithguncontrolone6149 我覺(jué)得他只是開(kāi)個(gè)玩笑而已。
@jimmyw7530 Why are you talking about trump when nothing has been said about him. Is he stuck in your head? You do realize that this could have been how the U.S military is finally showing its might and not a political comment.
@jimmyw7530 為什么你要提到特朗普，明明沒(méi)人提到他。難道他印在你腦海里揮之不去嗎？你難道沒(méi)意識(shí)到這可能只是美國(guó)軍隊(duì)在展現(xiàn)實(shí)力而不是一條政治評(píng)論。
I think that it's a huge supply chain benefit for the f-47 and the fa-xx to share engines, if possible. It's for the same reasons why 556x45 is the defacto NATO standard
我認(rèn)為，如果F-47和FA-XX能夠共享發(fā)動(dòng)機(jī)將是一個(gè)巨大的供應(yīng)鏈優(yōu)勢(shì)，原因與5.56×45毫米成為北約默認(rèn)標(biāo)準(zhǔn)的理由類似。
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Of course it is. It would also be appropriate to share versions of the same radar and other sensors, as well as cockpit instrumentation to the extent possible. All this stuff saves money and allows more combat power.
But the "jack of all trades always sucks" people don't want to hear it. They only think about the fact that commonality requires compromises, not that it also creates savings and therefore increases the size of the force.
當(dāng)然是這樣的，同時(shí)共享同版雷達(dá)、其他傳感器以及盡可能統(tǒng)一的駕駛艙儀表也是合理的，這些措施都可以節(jié)省成本并提升戰(zhàn)斗力。然而那些認(rèn)為“多功能裝備總是表現(xiàn)不佳”的人并不聽(tīng)人話，他們只想著共通性帶來(lái)的妥協(xié)，卻忽略了它可以創(chuàng)造成本節(jié)約從而擴(kuò)大部隊(duì)規(guī)模的重要事實(shí)。
It won’t be sold outside the US because nobody will buy it with this Guy in charge
因?yàn)橛羞@個(gè)家伙負(fù)責(zé)管理，所以美國(guó)以外的地方?jīng)]人會(huì)買。
@andrewbantick6311 I wouldn't go so far as to say "nobody". Europe and Asia definitely won't. Israel and Saudi Arabia probably will. Depending on how far this administration tries to go with Russo-American reproachment, it wouldn't surprise me if Russia started buying US weapons. Not that I'm enthusiastic about any of this, mind you.
@andrewbantick6311 我不至于說(shuō)到“沒(méi)有人”這么絕對(duì)，歐洲和亞洲肯定不會(huì)這樣做，以色列和沙特阿拉伯可能會(huì)，根據(jù)這屆政府與俄羅斯關(guān)系緩和的程度發(fā)展，如果俄羅斯開(kāi)始購(gòu)買美國(guó)武器我也不會(huì)感到意外，不過(guò)說(shuō)實(shí)話，我對(duì)這一切都沒(méi)什么興致。
We got more news about both NGAD programs this week that we had for the last 10 years
我們本周關(guān)于兩個(gè)NGAD計(jì)劃的消息比過(guò)去10年里得到的還要多。
But it took ten years to make it. Don't be sheep."Look what I did" is for the gullible
但這花了十年才做出來(lái)，不要像羊群一樣盲從，“看看我做了什么”只是給輕信的人看的。
@MichaelBarnes-ey7sj Yep exactly and it’s also probably high time considering China’s new toys. Imagine being so blinded by your political beliefs.
@MichaelBarnes-ey7sj 沒(méi)錯(cuò)，說(shuō)得很對(duì)，而且現(xiàn)在可能也是時(shí)候采取行動(dòng)了，尤其是考慮到中國(guó)的新裝備，真是難以想象居然會(huì)因?yàn)檎瘟?chǎng)而如此盲目。
It's the Northrop Grumman F/A-45 Tomcat II.
這是諾斯羅普·格魯曼公司的F/A-45“雄貓II”戰(zhàn)斗機(jī)。
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I love it when I have questions and later on in the video they are answered
我喜歡視頻中先讓我產(chǎn)生疑問(wèn)，然后后來(lái)又解答這些問(wèn)題的感覺(jué)。
It’s definite going to be F/A-45. No doubt. Certain person requested it. He is going to have 45 and 47. Watch
這肯定會(huì)是F/A-45，毫無(wú)疑問(wèn)，有某個(gè)特定的人要求了這個(gè)型號(hào)，他會(huì)擁有F/A-45和F/A-47，拭目以待吧。
?@Jeff55369 i think eye rolling is more likely.
@Jeff55369 我覺(jué)得翻白眼的可能性更大。
? @ShaperOfThings Yes, we who find all this business embarrassing will be rolling our eyes at both the MAGA crowd and the Trump Derangement Syndrome crowd. You are both silly.
是的，我們覺(jué)得這一切都令人尷尬的人會(huì)對(duì)MAGA陣營(yíng)和特朗普妄想癥陣營(yíng)都感到無(wú)奈，你們真是夠幼稚的。
@EpistemicAnthony I'm neither of those things, and would remind you that there's more people outside the states then in 'em.
@EpistemicAnthony 我既不是那些人中的一個(gè)，也不是那些東西，同時(shí)我想提醒你，在美國(guó)之外的人類比美國(guó)人要多。
@ they are also ridiculous. :P
But to be fair... I ran across a document earlier that showed propositions for f40 - 46 earlier today from 6 years ago. The 47 ident isn't just because of Trump.
@ 他們也很荒謬 :P
不過(guò)公平地說(shuō)……我今天早些時(shí)候看到了一份來(lái)自六年前的文件，上面展示了關(guān)于F40到F46的提案，F(xiàn)47的標(biāo)識(shí)并不僅僅是因?yàn)樘乩势铡?/b>
ShadowCat has a nice ring to it.
暗影貓這個(gè)名字聽(tīng)起來(lái)挺不錯(cuò)的。
This has to be named the F-28 Tomcat II…perfection!
這一定得叫F-28“雄貓II”，簡(jiǎn)直完美！
probably F-49 or F-50
可能是F-49或者F-50。
@SmoochyRoo F-14 x 2 = F-28 Tomcat II…if it’s Grumman it has to be this!
@SmoochyRoo F-14乘以2等于F-28“雄貓II”…如果是格魯曼公司，那就一定是這個(gè)！
Will this be the F-45?
這會(huì)是F-45嗎？
I'm just hoping that the wings don't fall off the Boeing F47 the way the door flew off the 737 MAX.
我只是希望波音F47的機(jī)翼不要像737 MAX的艙門(mén)那樣飛脫了。
Different divisions of a big company... Boeing's military division has a lot less problems than the commercial division.
一家大公司內(nèi)部的不同部門(mén)……波音公司的軍用業(yè)務(wù)部門(mén)的問(wèn)題明顯比商業(yè)業(yè)務(wù)部門(mén)少得多。
Its actually McDonnell Douglass
實(shí)際上是麥克唐納·道格拉斯公司。
Boeing is McDonnell douglas in drag
波音就像是偽裝的麥道公司一樣。
...Harder to hire temps. to build for DoD. They'll have to find a different way to screw up.
現(xiàn)在雇傭臨時(shí)工為國(guó)防部工作變得更加困難，他們必須另尋其他方法來(lái)搞砸事情。
What's the point in F-35C then?
那F-35C的意義是什么呢？
F-35 is a multirole. The replacement for the FA-18 is different in purpose
F-35是一款多用途戰(zhàn)機(jī)，用途與FA-18的替代機(jī)型有著不同的設(shè)計(jì)目的。
F-35C was, like the other F-35’s, a strike and SEAD platform, meant to well, pound ground targets and suppress enemy air defenses. It’s rather good at it, too.
What the F/A-XX will be used for is air superiority and fleet defense, like the F-14 before it. These missions require starkly different airfrxs, and so we have two separate jets for different missions.
F-35C與其他型號(hào)的F-35一樣，是一種執(zhí)行對(duì)地打擊和壓制敵方防空系統(tǒng)的作戰(zhàn)平臺(tái)，專門(mén)用于打擊地面目標(biāo)并削弱敵方防空力量，這方面它表現(xiàn)得相當(dāng)出色。而F/A-XX的用途則主要集中在制空權(quán)爭(zhēng)奪和艦隊(duì)防御任務(wù)，類似于之前的F-14，這類任務(wù)需要完全不同的機(jī)體設(shè)計(jì)，因此我們?yōu)椴煌蝿?wù)需求研制了兩種截然不同的戰(zhàn)機(jī)。
@XTh3T3RMIN4T0RX What is the multirole if not fighter stacker aka F/A then?
@XTh3T3RMIN4T0RX 如果不是作為戰(zhàn)斗機(jī)堆疊器的多用途機(jī)型，也就是F/A，那又是什么呢？
@ it’s not, they are replacing f/a-18SH which is a multirole platform
這不是這樣的，他們是在替換F/A-18SH，這是一款多用途平臺(tái)的戰(zhàn)機(jī)。
A lot, That's like asking what's the point in the F-15EX when you can slap missile pallets inside C-5s. Every plane has its role and is accounted for in the future of air combat.
這就像問(wèn)為什么需要F-15EX，當(dāng)你可以在C-5運(yùn)輸機(jī)里裝滿導(dǎo)彈托盤(pán)一樣，每種飛機(jī)都有其特定的作用，并在未來(lái)的空戰(zhàn)中被合理規(guī)劃和利用。
F35c is more for Air to Ground missions this new plane will be more Air to Air focused
F-35C更適合執(zhí)行空對(duì)地任務(wù)，而這架新飛機(jī)將更加專注于空對(duì)空作戰(zhàn)。
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The F/A XX replaces the F-18 not the F-35
Now why both
USN necked down to just F-18 however the F-18 operating as a tanker burned through F-18s air frxs faster than they expected. Combined with sustained operations
The F-18 were heavily over worked. The F-35C gives the USN another aircraft to take the load but also gives them several more options
The F-35C is stealth so the USN has aircraft that can perform various ISTAR functions by utilizing its stealth. No longer relying on the USAF for ISR or ISTAR
The F-35C can use it stealth and strike the enemy's sensors allowing the F-18 to strike unhindered against targets at sea or on land
with the FAXX, it will strike the enemy sensors while the F-35C delivers the killing blow
Two aircraft allow for the USN to share the burden instead placing it on plane
F/A XX將會(huì)取代F-18而不是F-35。為什么要同時(shí)擁有兩個(gè)型號(hào)？
美國(guó)海軍之前曾僅僅依賴F-18，但由于F-18被頻繁用作加油機(jī)的角色，導(dǎo)致其機(jī)體壽命消耗比預(yù)期更快，再加上長(zhǎng)期高強(qiáng)度任務(wù)，F(xiàn)-18的工作負(fù)擔(dān)非常繁重。引入F-35C不但為美海軍增加了可用機(jī)型，緩解了這一壓力，同時(shí)也為他們提供了多種戰(zhàn)術(shù)選擇。
F-35C的隱身性能使美國(guó)海軍擁有可以執(zhí)行多種ISTAR（情報(bào)、監(jiān)視、目標(biāo)捕獲與偵察）任務(wù)的飛機(jī)，而無(wú)需繼續(xù)依賴美國(guó)空軍的ISR或ISTAR支援。通過(guò)隱身能力，F(xiàn)-35C能夠摧毀敵方傳感器，為F-18提供掩護(hù)，讓其可以更加有效地對(duì)海上或陸地目標(biāo)進(jìn)行攻擊。
未來(lái)F/A XX將負(fù)責(zé)打擊敵方傳感器，而F-35C則完成關(guān)鍵性攻擊。這兩種飛機(jī)的搭配能夠讓海軍將任務(wù)負(fù)擔(dān)分?jǐn)?，避免過(guò)度依賴某一型號(hào)飛機(jī)。
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The FA/XX is ment to complement the F-35C, they work together
FA/XX的設(shè)計(jì)是為了與F-35C互為補(bǔ)充，兩者協(xié)同作戰(zhàn)。
At NG facility in LA has F-14 murals in cafeteria
洛杉磯的NG基地餐廳里有F-14戰(zhàn)斗機(jī)的壁畫(huà)，氣氛超棒！
I'll be happy to see them get back to built-for-purpose airfrxs instead of trying to make so many compromises that a single airfrx isn't superior at anything.
我很高興看到他們回歸專為特定用途設(shè)計(jì)的機(jī)身，而不是試圖做出那么多妥協(xié)，導(dǎo)致單一機(jī)身在任何方面都無(wú)法出類拔萃。
I kind of thought we might get a 2nd place runner up from Lockheed or another top supplier as a carrier or alternative use case also added..
我覺(jué)得我們可能會(huì)從洛克希德或其他頂級(jí)供應(yīng)商那里獲得一個(gè)第二名的候選者，并作為載體或替代使用案例的補(bǔ)充。
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F-15 and F-14, that classic friendly rivalry is happening again but now with F-47 and F/A-XX. Nice.
F-15和F-14之間那種經(jīng)典的友好競(jìng)爭(zhēng)又出現(xiàn)了，不過(guò)這次主角變成了F-47和F/A-XX，挺不錯(cuò)的。
It'll be a variant of the F-47.
Looks like the F47 was based on Boeing's FAXX submission already.
Easier to "de-carrier" a carrier aircraft for the USAF than the itger way around.
Maybe the Navy version has canards and the USAF version doesn't as those are more help with STOL than anything else, as i understand.
The requirements between the two services for these programs are very similar. Its not like the F35 trying to fit STOVL for the Marines imto it.
這將是F-47的一個(gè)變種版本。
看起來(lái)F-47已經(jīng)是基于波音公司提交的FAXX方案設(shè)計(jì)的。
對(duì)于美國(guó)空軍來(lái)說(shuō)，從艦載機(jī)轉(zhuǎn)變?yōu)榉桥炤d機(jī)比反過(guò)來(lái)要容易。
也許海軍的版本有鴨翼，而空軍的版本則沒(méi)有，因?yàn)閾?jù)我理解，這些設(shè)計(jì)在短距起飛和降落方面的幫助比其他功能要大。
兩軍對(duì)于這些項(xiàng)目的需求非常相似，不像F-35那樣試圖將短距起飛垂直降落功能融入海軍陸戰(zhàn)隊(duì)使用。
Considering that 6th gen might rely heavily on modular design. It wouldn't be crazy if 80% of the NGAD aircraft were similar. Outer shell might be slightly different, but since most everything could be the same, it's not crazy to think Boeing could get the FAXX contract too. Or even if Northup gets the contract, the parts might be standardized across platforms in order to keep costs down.
考慮到第六代戰(zhàn)機(jī)可能會(huì)高度依賴模塊化設(shè)計(jì)，80%的NGAD飛機(jī)設(shè)計(jì)類似也并不算瘋狂。外殼可能稍有不同，但考慮到大多數(shù)組件可以通用，波音獲得FAXX合同也并非不可能。甚至即使合同由諾斯羅普公司拿下，為了控制成本，各平臺(tái)之間的零件可能都會(huì)標(biāo)準(zhǔn)化。
what about the F-45 Condor?
F-45禿鷲戰(zhàn)機(jī)怎么樣？
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F-45 Hellcat II
F-45 地獄貓 II
I would say that is more of a helicopter name
我覺(jué)得這更像是一個(gè)直升機(jī)的名字。
F/A-45 Felon
F/A-45“重犯”
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@elpenprice679 The Su-57 already took the name.
@elpenprice679 蘇-57已經(jīng)搶先用了這個(gè)名字。
Getting geared up for Taiwan
為即將前往臺(tái)灣（地區(qū)）做好準(zhǔn)備。
Let's remember that US Navy just ordered 17 more SuperHornets prior to the 2027 shutdown of the production line. The tanker role and ops tempo has been hard on lifecycle. Current ops tempo is very high.
讓我們記住，美國(guó)海軍剛剛在2027年停產(chǎn)前追加訂購(gòu)了17架超級(jí)大黃蜂，用于執(zhí)行加油任務(wù)的壓力以及高強(qiáng)度的作業(yè)節(jié)奏對(duì)飛機(jī)的使用壽命造成了較大的影響，目前的作業(yè)節(jié)奏非常緊張。
When is the delivery window for both Gen 6 fighters to enter service like 10 years or 15?
第六代戰(zhàn)斗機(jī)的服役時(shí)間窗是多久，大概是10年還是15年？
When you fire half the country I guess there is money for new toys.
當(dāng)你解雇了半個(gè)國(guó)家的人，看來(lái)就有錢(qián)買新玩具了。
Half parasite federal employees who do half a days work and nope, there are cuts to the pentagon too.
一半是寄生蟲(chóng)的聯(lián)邦雇員，只工作半天，而且五角大樓也會(huì)遭到削減。
Last 4 years sucked. 2025 is only 3 months in and already kicking off with a blast!
過(guò)去四年簡(jiǎn)直糟透了，2025年才剛開(kāi)始三個(gè)月就已經(jīng)火力全開(kāi)了！
Yes!
是的！
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Yeah im loving watching our GDP shrink, our markets suffer the worst losses since 2008, our government continuing to outspend itself and crucial research for national security getting cut.
4 more years of this cant possibly get any better.
是啊，我真是太喜歡看到我們的GDP萎縮、市場(chǎng)遭遇自2008年以來(lái)最慘重的損失、政府繼續(xù)超支以及事關(guān)國(guó)家安全的關(guān)鍵研究被削減了，再來(lái)四年這樣的情況也不會(huì)變得更好吧。
@2639theboss
Not to mention our national security leadership showing they are naive and way over their heads regarding negotiations with allied and adversary powers, personnal management, and operational security.
更不用說(shuō)我們的國(guó)家安全領(lǐng)導(dǎo)層在與盟友和對(duì)手進(jìn)行談判、人員管理以及運(yùn)營(yíng)安全方面，表現(xiàn)得天真又完全不勝任。
F45 and the F47
F45 和 F47
Trump Planes?
特朗普的飛機(jī)？
I had genuine imagined that for the sake of cost and commonality of parts, that the USN would have had a navalised version of a USAF NGAD?
我原本真心以為，為了降低成本以及部件通用性，美國(guó)海軍應(yīng)該會(huì)擁有空軍NGAD的海軍化版本吧？